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Old 01-05-2009, 04:37 AM
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get a 2 little fish phosban reactor there like 50 bucks +powerhead and phosphate removing media and run that it was the only thing i found that worked awsome on cyano

Yup, allready have. Nope, not working.... Phosphate allways reads 0 in my tank too.

I feed Mysis daily, but to my fish.

Flow, I belive is adequate,
Quiet one 3000
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All feed the circulation, so approx 1500GPH on a 45g tank
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Old 01-05-2009, 04:58 AM
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Why don't you just treat with erythromycin for a few days and do a few water changes?
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:05 AM
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Yup, allready have. Nope, not working.... Phosphate allways reads 0 in my tank too.

I feed Mysis daily, but to my fish.

Flow, I belive is adequate,
Quiet one 3000
Mag 350
Koralia 2
All feed the circulation, so approx 1500GPH on a 45g tank
I've never had any luck using a phosban reactor on my tanks either, Patience has always been the best remedy for cyano in my tanks, usually by feb it seems to start to recede. Of course before I was diligently doing 25% water changes weekly, blowing all the cyano off the rocks daily and using phosphate removers. I'm not doing that this year, I'm sticking to my regular regime to see if it will go away on its own within the same timeframe
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:17 AM
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Personally i have had it a couple of times, and the best thing is.... chemiclean read slim remover. added it to my tank and 48 hours later it was gone. I did the light thing once and it just came back twice as bad. i highly reccomend this product to anyone and you don't get ****ed off coral cause they didn't get any light and its safe for fish. No deaths, besides getting rid of the cyano.

btw this was in my 10gal, aka the horror story. and not worth running a phosban reactor
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:32 AM
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Chemiclean is a band aid, if you dont fix whats causing the cyano it will be back in a couple of weeks.

As for the sugar, adding sugar to the tank is a form of carbon dosing which feeds bateria to reduce nitrates to zero, it has its advantages and disadvantages.
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Old 01-05-2009, 06:20 AM
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I want to know more about dosing sugar. I've t5ried lights out, Phos reactors, Lots of water changes, changed lighting scheduals, less feeding. I've removed a bunch of sand, added more.... Tank looks "OK" in morning, but by 5pm, the sand and rocks are covered again..
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Old 01-05-2009, 07:52 AM
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well here is my report for sugar dosing most of the cyano is gone.....

It was about 90% on everything the rocks the substrate and everything else and now there is about 15% left we'll see in a few more days if it will be totally gone but one thing intresting to make note of was the bacteria aka red slime has turned brown and blown away which is a pleasent suprise.

I have a mix of crushed coral and LS and when I disturbed the CC on the top layer it ended up mixing cyano about 1 in in the bed so the deeper stuff still remain but the top layers is gone so again tonight I released the trapped stuff into the water coloumn.

It seems that maybe a few on here are willing to try something new like banditpowdercoat.... I would say try 2 tablespoons of sugar per 50g and wait a few days like I did, it hasn't harmed any of my sps, gorgs or lps but I believe that problems take time to dissappear and afterall sugar isn't that bad in terms of killing animals like the chemiclean was on my precious gorgs so far I have 5 different species of gorgs and I would definately not chance them dying ever again.

A quick question to Drock what are the ill effects or disadvantages to carbon dosing and low nitrates?
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:09 AM
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I used Chemiclean too - with great success on my 135. No problems with anything except the Cyano.

I was very reluctant to "throw in the towel" and try a product like Chemiclean, but I was also very frustrated by the Cyano - I was sucking out huge quantities weekly with my waterchanges, but it just kept coming back as quickly as I could get rid of it. I replaced lights, modified my husbandry, and none of it made any difference. My vision of a beautiful tank was transformed into this nightmare of a tank covered in red. The cyano killed several corals and zoos. My frustration level was extreme. I finally tried the Chemiclean in desperation, followed the directions "to a T", and 3 days later - no Cyano.

It seemed to be what I needed to break the cycle of the Cyano. It was totally gone for about a month, then started to come back in a very minor way. I never treated it again, and just kept up with my routine of waterchanges. After about another four weeks of very minor visibility, it disappeared, and I have not seen any signs of it in the last 6 months.

In minor cases, I would agree that siphoning, water changes, black-outs etc. are the way to go. But if it gets severe enough, you need to "knock" it back. For me, Chemiclean did that very rapidly and effectively. The fact that it didn't ever come back as significantly indicates to me that there was not really any big problem with my feeding regime or husbandry. But I would suspect it would have taken much longer to get rid of it without the chemical intervention, and that there would have been more "friendly" casualties along the way.
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Old 01-06-2009, 05:59 PM
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As I stated before chemiclean, red slime remover by blue cross and any other anti biotic may state it's reef safe however will kill gorgonians!!

The sugar dosing worked all cyano gone in 3 days now we wait to see if it comes back....
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:43 PM
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Well, I fly out tomorrow for 3 weeks, I wont be able to do anything till I get back. I'll try the Sugar when I get home. I'd get the wife to dose the sugar, but she cant do water changes, so I'd want to be home for a change after the dosing.
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