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05-05-2003, 06:25 PM
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Brad, you could be correct on that not sure. But will tell you that the first piece I got with bugs on them no longer have a healthy population of the bugs and are a couple of my favorite peices. These corals never reinfested to original populations. I do have a couple pieces that do have heavy populations of the bugs but yet are still very colorful. I have never to my knowledge lost a single coral to these bugs and I have had them for well over a year. Perhaps oppurtunistic is not the correct word to use here. But again feel if a coral is less then happy and am geussing producing something or not producing something to protect the coral or just plain weaker these are the coral were the bugs collect. I think one of the common things on RC threads about the bugs are they never noticed them until x coral wasn't looking so good there for they took a closer lookand noticed the bugs. But is it safe to say thats the problem or was it another problem that made them notice the bugs?
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05-05-2003, 06:31 PM
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Hard to say. I never noticed them at all. Adam came by and he saw them. I think they show up easier on fading or bleached corals due to red on a light background. I agree, some of my nicest pieces are covered and show no problems. In fact, one humilis I have has started growing faster since getting them!!
The problem is adding a new frag...will it tolerate the bugs, or shrivel and die? Expensive gambling habit  BTW, the coral I dipped has fully recovered (from the iodine) by this morning and all it's polyps were extended.
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05-05-2003, 06:46 PM
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Brad,In regards to another thread you had started regarding putting bugs into your tank for what it's worth I knew I was putting them in mine.
 From speaking with very experienced hobbiest felt it was'nt a huge deal. There is no doubt in my mind there are worse things to have and many we have not come across yet I'm sure. From your iodine dip are you sure 100% of the bugs are killed and removed from the coral? As far as adding new frags I don't beleive any would shrivel and die do to the bugs only. Again these are only my thoughts and it does appear there are many on the subject which is some what confusing. If we all agreed that ah yes they killed the whole tank their bad this would make it easier. But thats not the concensius there for again I have to question their degree of harm.
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05-05-2003, 07:03 PM
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I'm not gonna ask why you put them there knowingly
 Again, I have to admit I can't assign a degree a damage. Since reefers tend to play and change other things often, it's hard to say what is caused by the bugs. One guy over here discovered the bugs when he lost 4 colonies, and he thought it was from the bugs. I reassured him it wasn't, but who knows. I have not had to remove a dead coral yet that I think the bugs killed, but if the progress of some of the affected pieces continues linearly, they will die in time. I am experimenting with moving them to lower light areas, and in the case of the branch in the 5g,it is helping (or maybe the temp going into the 90's is do it). At this point I can only say they are pests, not killers, but I do have damage that I directly blame on them. Maybe my tank has features that allow reproduction and I have many more than other people...again, who knows. I'm hoping my cyano experiment works, as that may lead to hope in ridding my tank of the suckers! 
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05-05-2003, 07:36 PM
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Sorry, I meant to reply to your last post when I got to the office, but it slipped right out of my head!!
I haven't tried epsom salt yet on the bugs, so I can't answer that. Wendell recommends epsom salt for general dips, and I assume most things are removed. I will try and remember to buy some epsom salts next time I'm at the drug store and test it. You can send me an email reminder if you like, as I forget things a lot 
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05-05-2003, 08:35 PM
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MRSandman seemed to have some luck with a 6-line. It sounds like his wrasse was exibiting the same behaviour as mine - picking at SPS. They've got to be picking at something. Mitch
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05-05-2003, 08:59 PM
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Mitch, I sent that $50 months ago...I'm sure you'll get it soon. I'll see how difficult it would be for me to send you a bug frag...if it's not too much trouble, I'll send it. Then you can play all you want!
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