Ok It's BUBBLE KING REVIEW

[Pan]

Originally Posted by asmodeus

yes I agree that the Bubble kings get huge Trash talk ,but why because of the $$$$$$$$$, then why are so many people in Germany screaming about them.

Because everyone in Germany screams?

[Doug]

Originally Posted by sphelps

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, I've just noticed the BKs get a lot of trash talk on this forum and it hasn't started yet on this thread but I'm kind of expecting it to.

Oh, I dont think it will.

[albert_dao]

... *sigh

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by sphelps

The vertex is Proline's answer to their issue with euro reef, it's the exact same skimmer except they added a diffuser chamber which was a good addition. However the collection cup attaches by a gland seal o-ring which makes removing the collection cup a real PITA and a recipe for skimmate spill. If you're looking for a good skimmer in a $400 budget it's a good choice but I wouldn't go any further.

I have a vertex and I think the "o" ring is the best thing sence sliced bread. real easy to remove and reinstall, less chance of spillage that twist off tops.

there is a lot more to the Vertex than just a bubble chamber and the "O" ring cup system, take a good look at one, better pump, different entrance high for the pump discharge and a few other little tweaks. I know the bubble king is a good skimmer, but I don't think it is enough of a differance to justify 850.00 more. needle wheel pumps are great, after having becket and venturi, both of which would make just as good of bubble as any needlewheel skimmer out there, I will never go back. the best thing about needle wheel in my opinion is the lack of maintance of the bubble producer.

I have got as far as to rething the custom skimmer I am building for my big tank I am setting up when I retire next year, to change it from dual venturi to duel or (maybe 3) good needle wheel pumps as I figure this skimmer will handle 600 gal easy.

If you want to see a knock off of the euroreef look at Pacific coast skimmers, the Vertex only uses the body in common, everything else is different.

Steve

[Skimmerking]

hey Steve I'm just looking at the vertex skimmer, its the same skimmer like the Euro reef but with the sedra pumps I dont like the Sedra pumps had them on my Euro reef. I can't see how a vertex skimmer is better then a euro reef its the pump at the end of the day to make the skimmer Unless that Im wrong here... alot of skimmer sare going to the Bubble plate too.

Like Sphelps stated I have tried alot of skimmer's and spend alot of mpney on them just to say that i have tried them. And I really think when you spend your money you get what you pay for. Look at the PFO reflector's they are ok, until you put them next to the Lumenarc's

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

you could also look at the vertex skimmer, getting good reviews and real afordable.

I can't see the logic on spending $1229 on something when you can get the same results for $355, or if you have the room to put a 30" tall skimmer ytou can get the biggest vertex at 400. which is rated to 250 gal tank

Steve

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by asmodeus

hey Steve I'm just looking at the vertex skimmer, its the same skimmer like the Euro reef but with the sedra pumps

not a sedra pump from everything I have been reading, it is one that was real good but concidered noisey, they did somethign with the shaft and such to quiet it down and made there own special intake for the air to be drawn in. I have seen a few of them in action now and I am totaly impressed. But, find out if anyone has one around you and take a look, the body is the same as the euro reef, but thats where it stops from what I have seen in mine and others.

Steve