"xenia crash" can someone see the problem in xenia picture i posted

[fishguy007]

i used dead rock in the tank. just base rock,. the lfs told me this was better, then i did not have to wait for the live rock to agasin cycle. they told me the dead rock would come alive. is this at all true

the lfs told me that i could put stuff in right away. how long do you suggest that i wait before i put anything else in.

Salinity? 1.024 I use the deep six hygrometer. you dip it in the tank, let it fill and the lever floats to the salinity.

Temp? between 78-79. sometimes 80 with the lights

Nitrate? 0

Nitrite? 0

Ammonia? 0

Are you dosing anything other than the ph buffer? - i add calcium. coral excel, coral vite, coral frenzy and mix the fish food in garlic. i have added idoide but thats about it.


any suggestions

[Powertec]

Replied to your pm.

[Snaz]

Originally Posted by fishguy007

- i add calcium. coral excel, coral vite, coral frenzy and mix the fish food in garlic. i have added idoide but thats about it.


any suggestions

Possible reasons your coral is dying.

1. Tank is one month old.
2. Dead rock, how did you cycle the tank?
3. Dosing everything but gatorade. Don't dose what you can't test for. Adding supplements is meant to replace lost minerals due to coral GROWTH that don't normally get replaced with regular water changes. Since your coral is not growing you should NOT be dosing. Even if coral was growing modestly you should be getting all of your minerals through water changes with a good salt.
4. Not enough Patience.

[fishguy007]

it was fiji live rock. was taken out of a tank and dried for a few months and then washed with a hose and dried again. so the guy told me no cycling.

i have a few pieces of live rock from the corals that i added.

just orederd a refractometer now.

no. another guy told me that i dont reall have to add anything. is that true. he said a reef could be fine with no chemicals.

iin there now i have two occ clowns. one blk occ clown. a yellow watchman godby,. a hipo tang and a yellow tang. its only a 32 gallon tank

i just test
ph
nitrate
nitrite
and ammonia

should i buy more test kits. i got what the lfs told me.

so would the cycle cause the ph to be low., and how long will this cycle take. the tank have been runnig for over a moonth now.

[Aquattro]

If your tank is a month old, you didn't use live rock, nd your dosing everything the store sells, you're in trouble. You should not have those fishin there yet, and a couple should never go in there.
Return the tangs, tank is too small. Return any additives, tank doesn't need them. Find new fish store, you don't need that one.
Don't buy anything else until you ask here or another board. We don't sell stuff here, so our advice is not biased.
You need to slow down. A lot.

[Black Phantom]

Sorry to agree but your tank is way too small for those tangs. What other corals do you have close by the zenia. They may be getting stung or under a chemical attack.
I can't have Zenia in my big tank as they just shrivel and die, but they grow like weeds in my 50. Exact same water just different corals.

[dabandit]

When you add a new fish to your tank it needs to cycle again to develop enough bacteria to clean the waste the new fish produces,your adding fish faster than your tank can develop the bacteria to keep the water pure..result-system crash,add 1 fish wait 2-4weeks add another and so on. Running a tank that small,new and overstocked theres no way your ammonia,nitrate are at zero. And as I mentioned before you also need to test for phosphate,ka alkalinity,magnesium if you want to keep a reef.

[dabandit]

For the gentleman who says you cant rush a cycle I suggest you educate yourself on the subject ,there are a variety of ways to rush an initial cycle.
I've pulled it off in about a week using cured re seeded live rock,1/2live sand from an established tank and 1/2 water from an established tank. Basically at that point your just doing a 40-50%water change. p.s when the store told you no cycling on the live rock they ment no die off on the live rock,cycle still needs to be done to add the bacteria and such.