Livestock Budget Increase Poll (Contest Members Only)

[ElGuappo]

Originally Posted by superduperwesman

K deal. I'll run the next contest. Minimum 1200 Gallon,,, $150 budget

This is display volume only right????

[Marlin65]

Originally Posted by ElGuappo

This is display volume only right????

Yes and the tank is free including any scraps you have laying around.

[StirCrazy]

Ok, just to put my opinion in as some one who would probably have entered this if I would have knowen about it sooner.

an increase in live stock budgit is not a good idea, the final judging from what I understand is going to be by canreef members based on a paicture of the tank. sooooo someone who started under the premis of the old budgit and is pretty much done as they went high tech will be able to buy a small frag or two. but some one who is just starting (like me if I decide to get in on it) could skimp on the equipment and high tech stuf and lay everything down on live stock. the end result would be a tank that looks amazing.

One of the things that got me reading this and following it for the last couple days was I was very interested to see exactly what people would come up with for 300.00

rules for entering were already set and in all fairness once some one has joined under the declaired rules then they can't be changed, or it makes a joke out of the whole contest.

that would be like paying 100.00 for a ticket to win the dream house then two weeks after you buy your ticket they add a rule saying only people over 65 can win.

Steve

[superduperwesman]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

Ok, just to put my opinion in as some one who would probably have entered this if I would have known about it sooner.

You still can

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

an increase in live stock budget is not a good idea, the final judging from what I understand is going to be by canreef members based on a picture of the tank. sooooo someone who started under the premise of the old budgit and is pretty much done as they went high tech will be able to buy a small frag or two. but some one who is just starting (like me if I decide to get in on it) could skimp on the equipment and high tech stuf and lay everything down on live stock. the end result would be a tank that looks amazing.

Someone who started under the old budget and went high tech on the equipment will now be able to have more live stock... someone who wanted to focus more on livestock can now focus even more on it... which I'm sure they we'll love either by increasing quantity or color and quality

At the end of the day the only people who can legitimately be disappointed are the ones who only wanted/budgeted to spend $300 and now feel that others will be at an advantage because they're now spending more... but I'm sure the voters will take into consideration... especially seeing the money spent must be posted.

Plus at the end of the day... "amazing" is a relative term... I'm sure some people in the DIY section would rather see a 10 gallon with some innovative design and 2 frags then a stock AGA stocked right full

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

rules for entering were already set and in all fairness once some one has joined under the declared rules then they can't be changed, or it makes a joke out of the whole contest.

Rule # 3b: the rules can change ahah
^ and that's the exception that proves the rule

It's not a joke it just takes time to get everything ironed out nicely.. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was this contest.. but so far I think it's starting out on a pretty good foundation for the first go round

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

that would be like paying 100.00 for a ticket to win the dream house then two weeks after you buy your ticket they add a rule saying only people over 65 can win.

Not the perfect parallel... increasing the budget will not omit anyone from the contest

[Marlin65]

It does not matter to me one way or the other but I am with stirCrazy on this one. To change the rules half way though is not ethical.

[superduperwesman]

Originally Posted by Marlin65

It does not matter to me one way or the other but I am with stirCrazy on this one. To change the rules half way though is not ethical.

Yeah if everybody broke the rules all the time things would be a mess... but you can't claim that any rule change is always unethical?? If so I think my buddy Josh would be a little upset that he has to ride at the back of the bus. If the foundation of something is less than ideal from the start then a change is required and that shouldn't really be a problem as long as it follows the correct "Management of Change Process."

And in this case it is apparent that a majority of the contestants would agree that a change is required... I guess if we wanted to be more fair we could add up all of the 0's, 50's, 100's, 150's and divide the total by the number of contestants so that everyone's vote influences the actual number increase, so even though a contestant may lose to the majority they can still bring the average down oppose to being a losing majority with no actual influence on the outcome.

If we do it like that it'll kinda be like government elections... you lost on the whole but hey you still get a few seats in parliament ahah

Might be a little more representative of the true situation?

Which would mean a $95 increase given the current votes at the time of this post if my calculations are correct.

[StirCrazy]

superduperwesman, you seem to be the only one arguing this, is it you that wants the budgit increased as you don't feel you can do it for under 300?

anyways, guess I forgot.. rules we ment to be broken

guess that means we can start posting cars and table saws in the buy and sell section on the board as no one will mind if we change the rules.

Steve