Prices - discussion thread!

JDigital · #1 10-20-2008, 03:51 AM

The 75% thing was for hardware only

Livestock pricing was to be based on the J&L or LiveAquaria prices.

This has been in the Rules/Guidelines since the beginning as well.

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ADDENDUM A:
Calculating "cost" for livestock/coral that was free (fragged from an existing tank, etc), received in trade, or purchased at wholesale prices, etc.
-Items received free-- an amount will be deducted from your budget equivalent to what that livestock/coral would commonly be sold for in Livestock Classified Forum of Canreef.com or J&L Aquatics if it can not be found in the Buy/Sell Section. If you can not determine a "fair market value" please PM michika or JDigital a pic, along with common name, and we will do our best to give you a "price".
If you don't feel this is satisfactory, you would probably be better off not competing in this contest.
-Items received in trade - Same as above.
-Items purchased at wholesale prices - Same as above.
-Items on which you scored a "good deal"- If you can provide proof of the price you got, cost will be figured at the actual price you paid. If it was a transaction with a private individual, have them hand-write you a receipt, scan it, and post it on your thread.

sphelps · #2 10-26-2008, 04:47 PM

Question

If a piece of livestock were to parish or perhaps just removed because of compatibility issues or some other reason can the cost of that piece of livestock be deducted from the budget?

Also same deal with equipment, if something needs to be replaced or removed can it's cost be deducted from the budget?

AndyL · #3 10-27-2008, 02:11 PM

I would hope with equipment we would be able to work around problems. After all we're all relying on notorious heaters (I don't think i've heard of a single >100w with a stellar reputation for reliability). And most of us are cutting corners to make the budget work... However there's something to be said for warranty replacement vs upgrading - maybe a 'restocking fee'?

Livestock is a damn good question though, no clue where to go with that one...

sphelps · #4 10-27-2008, 02:25 PM

Not to jump the gun here but I would hope that as long as by the end of six months all that matters is that the tank as is, is within budget. After all people who broke tanks didn't count them so... And if you feel livestock shouldn't work the same and someones tank were to crash or something similar they would have no choice but to drop out.

I'm also inquiring because to be honest I've only recently become aware of the whole theme thing and I'm considering removing all livestock and starting over (just livestock though).

AndyL · #5 10-27-2008, 02:41 PM

Steve,

I'm not arguing with ya; in fact we share the same point of view, however I'm trying to look at it in terms of the other contestants... I'd love to know that I might be able to toss that mag3 out for an OR3500 - however I'm sure other contestants would be quite upset if I went down that road, especially when the OR's by liveaquaria are cheaper than my used mag3...

Andy

sphelps · #6 10-27-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyL

Steve,

I'm not arguing with ya; in fact we share the same point of view, however I'm trying to look at it in terms of the other contestants... I'd love to know that I might be able to toss that mag3 out for an OR3500 - however I'm sure other contestants would be quite upset if I went down that road, especially when the OR's by liveaquaria are cheaper than my used mag3...

Andy

Wasn't arguing with you either

sphelps · #7 10-27-2008, 05:44 PM

I agree with the livestock death thing but unfortunately a person could just replace the item anyway so does that really even work? But that's cool we can keep it like that, I know it's all honor system.

So removing coral and deducting from budget is OK then, provided they are alive? Even after NOV 15th? I'm just concerned some corals may cause problems and may need to be removed and I'm wondering if I can gamble or should play it safe. Also if something did die the person could not only just replace the item they could simply say they removed or traded it.

I'm sorry I missed the theme thing, I have been checking Canreef all the time as I'm sure most of you can tell. That thread just slipped through the cracks, I was seriously wondering what the heck was with all these tank names, lol. And although I'm not sure on a theme yet I would really like to do one.

michika · #8 10-27-2008, 02:41 PM

I would say that if you have something and it dies, then unfortunately it must stay deducted from you budget. However, if you sell something, or trade it, you probably should be able to add to your budget, or have no impact on your budget. Again, JDigital gets final say, as its his contest.

A tank crash is a different story though, and I don't really know how to consider it. I do know that in the nano-reef contest, those that suffered a crash, were considered to have "dropped-out" in the sense that they could no longer compete for the prize, but they could still continue to participate in all other senses.

rocketlily · #9 10-27-2008, 02:51 PM

Quote "I'm also inquiring because to be honest I've only recently become aware of the whole theme thing and I'm considering removing all livestock and starting over (just livestock though)."

So early in the game and with changes up in the air, what harm is there in pulling what you've put in and replacing it with something different.

The theme thing was announced on Oct 14th. Really, you should log on and check Canreef a little more often.

JDigital · #10 10-27-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by michika

I would say that if you have something and it dies, then unfortunately it must stay deducted from you budget. However, if you sell something, or trade it, you probably should be able to add to your budget, or have no impact on your budget. Again, JDigital gets final say, as its his contest.

A tank crash is a different story though, and I don't really know how to consider it. I do know that in the nano-reef contest, those that suffered a crash, were considered to have "dropped-out" in the sense that they could no longer compete for the prize, but they could still continue to participate in all other senses.

That's pretty much how I feel about it..

If a piece of your livestock dies, my condolences

, but you have to keep it deducted from the your budget, whether it dies of natural reasons, or you stocked your tank wrong and it gets killed, etc etc.. If you trade a coral or want to remove one (or more) that's fine you can recoup the cost of that coral.

As for tank crashes, let's hope no one has one, first of all.

I think how Nano-reef dealed with tank crashes was that if it crashed, and you were not able to get it back up and running by the next monthly update (15th of Every month for us) then by the rules, those people are out of the contest.

I don't know how you guys want to work this, I'm open to suggestions, just keep em simple.