Zeovit vs. Fauna Marin

[Canadian]

I think the most labor intensive part is that you can't readily miss a few days while you go away for the weekend for example. Most fish will be fine without food for a couple days. And if I needed to be away for longer than a couple days I could quite easily have someone feed my fish specific quantities of food. However I would be worried (unless I had another ULNS hobbyist sitting for my tank) that someone could easily mis-dose my tank.

I've long wanted to try the Fauna range of products for ULNS but my experience with VSV in the past coupled with my frequent travel schedule always left me concerned while I was away with someone else dosing my tank. I could very well automate things with an additional dosing system but a) I'd still be worried about malfunctioning of the dosing system and b) the cost of the dosing system would leave me having to wonder if it was justified in comparison to the results attained without it.

The great results obtained with several of the ULNS are very appealing. And I agree that as they become more mainstream with better customer service/support --> improved understanding and knowledge there will continue to be transition towards their use. The uncertainty about things like potassium dosing and the lack of any quality test kits to obtain valid and reliable results does make me a little leary about dosing those things in my tank however. Hopefully continued use of ULNS will contribute to greater understanding about a lot of the essential components and weed out some of the unnecessary ones.

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

In regards to labour intensive, I would have to disagree - You feed your fish daily right? maybe twice a day,

actualy no, every 3rd day. If I have to do anything daily I wouldn't have a tank. I go away to much for a couple days to a couple weeks to have to do daily stuff, thats why I am looking at the proflux and balling set up for the new tank.

Steve

[Aqua-Digital]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

2) show me a long term success with Zeo or what ever? its only been here for a couple years how can you call that long term? and I don't care what there doing in Germany or Japan, as I have said before I am German, and have been there several times... So is VW and that doesn't spell quality either. German stuff is the same as Canadian stuff, some good, some crap and a bit awesome. how about some long term success tanks right here in Canada that is all because of Zeo or what ever?

Well the real facts are LNF systems have been around for over 10 years, with many tanks in Europe employing this highly successful system (s)

If you want to look for long term success, just spend an hour scrolling through the German boards, you will find multiple LNF systems

Just because a product has not been in North America that long does not mean either it does not work or is new and should be overlooked like some sort of alien, North America seems to be the last place on earth to embrace new ideas in this hobby and I think a lot of that comes from the unwillingness to go outside a set comfort zone.

Whether you use Fauna or zeo or what ever they are all proven to work and when used as directed produce results that really cant be acheived in any other way. It is then up to the interested party to embrace this or bury our heads back in the sand hoping it will go away so we can get back to our comfort zone.

Yes you can have a nice tank without using these systems, but you also can have a much more vibrant healthy and colourful tank when using them. You need to understand the concept first I guess to understand this. You are removing all unnatural pollutants from the tank and replacing with the exact aminos bacterias and trace elements found in the wild, so providing a natural enviroment, well this is how fauna works and I think zeo is not far different, they just employ different dosing strategies and a few different concepts.

Merry christmas one and all