Reef expoxy disaster

gbeef · #1 09-22-2008, 05:37 PM

Mine wasnt that stuff althought ive used that stuff before with no problems (but in the future im done with useing epoxies in general)... it was another brand so suppose to look like coarline algea when i get home ill post the brand... It came in a dark purple box. i bought it locally..

I got my GF to put an airstone in the tank while im at work. im going to do another water change tonight. of 25% theres bits of this crap all over the bottom of my tank. I really hope my inverts and corals dont start dying.

gbeef · #2 09-22-2008, 05:41 PM

Just did a quick google serach this is the stuff i used.
Aquascape Milliput Epoxy

http://www.jlaquatics.com/images/misc/MC-DELEP.jpg

Whatigot · #3 09-22-2008, 05:46 PM

same thing my friend (therealbigal) used on the suggestion of knowledgable lfs employee....

dangerous for sure with no waning on the label regarding nano application...

I use tunze epoxy now quite regularily as does therealbigal with no ill effects although in a 100 gal system with crazy flow.

If you search you will find a few other reported cases of this happening, I wonder if it's a bad batch that only affects nanos or if it's just an issue that is only coming up recently with the advancement of technologies that allow us to keep these much smaller systems but has existed as a potential threat since the epoxys inception....

gbeef · #4 09-22-2008, 05:46 PM

Ive already done a 5Gal water change on a 14Gal yesterday im thinking about doing another major change today when i get home probly another 5GAL... Is this alright to do? or would i risk crashing the system with a sudden removal of 10GAL or 80% of the water in less in than 24hrs?

Whatigot · #5 09-22-2008, 05:48 PM

play it safe...
do for example 5 2 gallon water changes over the course of 10 hours rather than one big one all at once.

Borderjumper · #6 09-22-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gbeef

Just did a quick google serach this is the stuff i used.
Aquascape Milliput Epoxy

http://www.jlaquatics.com/images/misc/MC-DELEP.jpg

Ive used dozens of boxs of that over the last few years and have never had any problems. My tanks are bigger than yours, and I try not to use more than 1/2 a stick at any one time. It does cloud my water for an hour or so, but my corals kinda like it! They all get huge polyp extension.

Whatigot · #7 09-22-2008, 05:49 PM

unless your experience is in a 15 gallon or under system, your experience doesn't really tell us anything other than the product works as described in a tank of adequate size...

this happened to my friend after gluing only 1 coral, nowhere near in danger of using a half a stick...

looks like the thread starter only used enough to glue one frag as well with this effect.

JDigital · #8 09-22-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatigot

unless your experience is in a 15 gallon or under system, your experience doesn't really tell us anything other than the product works as described in a tank of adequate size...

this happened to my friend after gluing only 1 coral, nowhere near in danger of using a half a stick...

looks like the thread starter only used enough to glue one frag as well with this effect.

My tank is actually closer to 18-19G based on a volume calculator, I've just been to lazy to change my Tank Journal title from 23G... I epoxied 4 pieces of SPS this past week using the same product. prolly close to 1/8 of a stick (of each stick).. I got a VERY SLIGHT "cloud" when it orignally dipped into the tank, but disappeared just as quick. All I am running for filtration is a HOB with LR Rubble, Filter Floss, and a small filter bag of carbon.

gbeef · #9 09-22-2008, 06:43 PM

I used about a less than quarter of the stick to try and get a hammer coral to stay in place. My reef experince is id say is about 8of10 ive had a 7gal and a 55gal in the past... Ive used this product before, i did notice the water got cloudy the first time ive used it but it cleared in 2 hours or so.So when i used it a second time i thought nothing of it. Thats until the cloudyness didn't go away after 3 hours prior.

I dont cosider myself a newbie But ive never has a disaster of this magnetude before, where all the fish in the tank are huging the side due to lack of oxgen. Also im running a barebottom setup with high flow.

Also for water changes thats a good idea ill try 2 changes instead of one big one.

Whatigot · #10 09-22-2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JDigital

My tank is actually closer to 18-19G based on a volume calculator, I've just been to lazy to change my Tank Journal title from 23G... I epoxied 4 pieces of SPS this past week using the same product. prolly close to 1/8 of a stick (of each stick).. I got a VERY SLIGHT "cloud" when it orignally dipped into the tank, but disappeared just as quick. All I am running for filtration is a HOB with LR Rubble, Filter Floss, and a small filter bag of carbon.

so bigger than either of the tanks affected then.

I cannot speak for this thread starter, but I know that in the incident that was in my experience, the epoxy was used minimally and to the letter of the instructions.

I know that those of you who have used this product succesffully are going to assume the product was misused but I can assure this was not the case in at least one of these instances.