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09-12-2008, 03:25 AM
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Im setting up a tank right now with a PM RL100, i'll let you know how it works. Its really well built and a good looking peice of equipment as far as i can tell right now.
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09-12-2008, 04:59 AM
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Of the two lines, the Vertex looks to be the better skimmers with the bubble plates, smoothed out necks and collection cup drains. But the pumps on both probably leave something to be desired. The PM skimmers look like they're using Octo pumps rather than better quality Eheim, Sicce or Askoll pumps. I can't tell what the Vertex ones are using, but I sure hope the specs on the IN-250 are wrong since 145W for a needlewheel pump is extremely inefficient.
It looks as if J&L brought these two lines in to replace the loss of their ER skimmers - the PMs which look to be exact clones of ER's RS line. For their relatively low prices they're probably skim pretty good especially after some mesh modding, but I wish our otherwise wonderful local vendors would bring in a greater variety of modern mid- to higher-range skimmers such as: http://www.cncmarinesupply.com/catal...693989daba9ce4 or: http://www.warnermarine.com/Skimmers/ or: http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2007-11/pr/index.php Last edited by fkshiu; 09-12-2008 at 05:02 AM.
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09-12-2008, 06:41 AM
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yah I'd like to see the WM skimmers here...been following a thread or two in the US with one...and it works VERY VERY well!
but interesting to see how these skimmers do.....
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09-12-2008, 08:42 AM
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Here they mention that the Vertex uses a Resun pump which they thought was a negative.
http://glassbox-design.com/2008/macn...ium-specialty/ Cheers, Vic
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09-12-2008, 02:15 PM
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Call me crazy but I've seen speculation that the new Vertex skimmers could actually be re-badged / Chinese made Euro Reef skimmers with some little changes. I think it was Hanmeister on RC who suggested this.
Compare the pictures for yourself: http://www.euro-reef.com/defaultImag...mer%20View.jpg http://glassbox-design.com/wp-conten...er-225x300.jpg
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09-12-2008, 03:44 PM
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Euroreef RC series is manufactured in China...
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09-12-2008, 06:15 PM
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I have been running a PM RL150 for a month or so now and I love the skim I get off of it. The vertex skimmers look more appealing because of the Bubble plate. The pumps that come with them are crap! I would take a product made in the USA anyday over a MADE IN CHINA product. I have talked to people who have seen both skimmers running. The end relust is if you put the RL pump on the Vertex you would have the best of both worlds. The bottom line when your buying a skimmer is the quality of the pump in my mind. But hey we cant really complain both are very good skimmers for the price.
EVERYONE JUST NEEDS A BUBBLEKING !
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09-12-2008, 07:49 PM
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