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Old 06-09-2008, 06:33 AM
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Run as quickly as you can from the LFS that sold you a damsal to cycle your tank.
Deal with one of the reputable online sellers or from a reputable store in Edmonton.
Above all get your advice here, before making your next purchase.
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Naesco - I appreciate your advice and the LFS (Blueworld Aquariums from my dealings and what I have red in the forums here... they are reputable store) gave me the fish for free... and can give back when I add any other fish to the aquarium... I understand your concern with the damsel but just want to make sure I am not missing anything as your post didn't really explain what was wrong with the damsel and my situation. (I understand this fish will not work well with any other fish in the aquarium.... and I am not planning to have it when I add other fish to it - was there another concern that I am missing about the damsel?)

Myka - thank you very much for giving more areas to research these snails. When I am back at home I will do some more research - unfortunately I am away on business trip for over a week and wife is looking after the tank. (Will relay what I find to her). After doing some research tonite I am 95% sure that I do not have the pyramidal type snails... from the look I think I have collonista snails. Can't wait to get home and verify my findings.

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Old 06-09-2008, 03:23 PM
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The reason hes telling you to run from that LFS is because the damsel is not necessary to cycle tanks. Cycling with fish is an old practice for reef aquariums, your live rock will create more than enough ammonia to cycle a tank. I think that was the point he meant to make.
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Old 06-09-2008, 04:33 PM
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Naesco - I appreciate your advice and the LFS (Blueworld Aquariums from my dealings and what I have red in the forums here... they are reputable store) gave me the fish for free... and can give back when I add any other fish to the aquarium... I understand your concern with the damsel but just want to make sure I am not missing anything as your post didn't really explain what was wrong with the damsel and my situation. (I understand this fish will not work well with any other fish in the aquarium.... and I am not planning to have it when I add other fish to it - was there another concern that I am missing about the damsel?)
It is DAMSEL ABUSE!!!! It is sick, abusive, and unnecessary torture. Putting an animal in a poor environment (ammonia burns their gills) when it is completely unecessary is uncalled for. Take the damsel back now, you don't need it. As said above, your rock will provide plenty enough ammonia to cycle your tank on its own.

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Myka - thank you very much for giving more areas to research these snails. When I am back at home I will do some more research - unfortunately I am away on business trip for over a week and wife is looking after the tank. (Will relay what I find to her). After doing some research tonite I am 95% sure that I do not have the pyramidal type snails... from the look I think I have collonista snails. Can't wait to get home and verify my findings.

Again thanks to everyone for the help they have provided
You're very welcome. Ah, well Collonista snails don't look anything like Pyramidellid or Rissoid snails. That should be an easy identification.
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Old 06-09-2008, 11:24 PM
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OK just want to clear things up... I overlooked that. My tank hasn't had a major cycle (high ammonia spike)... But I have had it set up with 65lbs of live rock and 80lbs of live sand for just under 2 months now. I have red that many people only had a minor spike with my same sort of situation (lots of live rock and live sand to start there tank off with). Please tell me if I am doing something wrong. I am new to this and have been trying to learn as much as I can from the forums.

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Old 06-10-2008, 03:06 AM
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It depends how much die off on the rock you have as to how much of a cycle you will have. The only thing you're doing "wrong" is the damsel. There is no reason you should be forcing an animal to submit to such abuse. Do you understand that?
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:43 AM
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2 months you are done your cycle I would think don't worry about the damsel now. We have all done things we should not have in this hobby. At least he is still alive.
Test your water you should have no Ammonium and no NO2 with maybe a bit of NO3. If that is the case you can add something just remember to do it slowly and not too much at ones. Give it time to adjust.
Also some animals need your tank to be running for at least a few months. Do some reading and try to figure out what you want and what can live together. Not everything can.
As far as the mushrooms it's up to you what you want to do with those.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:46 AM
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Oh if your cleaner shrimp is still alive your cycle is done he would be the first to go.
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I was also told to use a damsel to cycle my tank.I put him in a month after starting and he lived till the day I gave him away and still lives in a friends tank.I dont think a tank 2 moths in should have any problem at all.Its not about time really more about the levels.I started a tank with all cycled rock that left the water for 15 sec at best and started stocking that day.NO losses so just depends on how much die-off there was initially.Clint
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Thank Clint and Marlin for your input.

I have been checking the levels since day 1 and ammonia has and nitrite have stayed at 0 - nitrate at about 5.

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