Zeovit - Enough talk, show some pics

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by digital-audiophile

For the record.. the "It's fact comment" is a friendly jab against Brad's own comments regarding MH when compared against T5 in these two threads where he loving says that "you NEED MH.. it's a fact"

http://canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=40826

http://canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=40940

Zactly!!

[Myka]

I thought this was supposed to be a picture thread of tanks/corals using Zeo??? I was also interested to see these corals, but all I see are pics of people saying "I don't use it, and see what I have!". Maybe we need a new thread...

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Myka

I thought this was supposed to be a picture thread of tanks/corals using Zeo??? ...

Yup, it's supposed to be. My impression so far is that there are no pics, so I'm not sure I can justify spending the money.

The reason I'm interested is that yes, although I think I cna do the same without Zeo (my previous tanks have been not-too-bad), I would like to feed my fish a bit more than normal and I have used sand this time around. If I can add more and Zeovit helps me manage it better (since I cna't get my skimmer to actually work very well), then I'd be intersted in setting this up. I'm not talking about adding the supplements, just the base reactor with zeofood, zeostart, zeobak and media. Ok, maybe dose some K, but that's it.

Do we have any pics?? Anyone?

[digital-audiophile]

I'll take some pics tonight, I've been neglegent due to the fact that I still can't figure out how to take decent underwater pictures.

Regarding cost, it's really only the startup that hits your pocketbook :

Reactor (1.5L) ~$230
ZeoStart ~$30
ZeoFood ~$15
ZeoBac ~$15
Zeolites ~$15

.. So initially you are looking to spend around $300.00.

Once you get going it should average out to around $20 (as noted by Albert in a thread a ways back)

[Delphinus]

I don't really have any before or after pictures, sorry.

To be honest the water zapped itself into this amazing clarity I couldn't even imagine, so quickly, that it literally caught me off guard. Like, I turned on the reactor one night, thought "I should get some pictures to do a before and after.. ah, it's late, I'll do it tomorrow." But "tomorrow" was too late. I was sitting there looking at my tank wondering what was wrong with my lights because they were noticeably brighter. Like they were suddenly being overdriven or something. Then I noticed my carpet tank had the same effect going on (it's a refugium style or satellite style tank run on the same sump). I finally realized, it wasn't the lights, it was the water.

I can show you some pictures of the frags I've got but without a context of a before and after, they don't really have a lot meaning to the spirit of this thread.

To be honest, to me the colours are just a happy bonus. Colours come from having nice pieces and reasonably well managed water quality, so colours will come anyhow. But having pieces grow because they are feeding on the bacteria that reduced the PO4 and NO3 .. that has a certain appeal to me. I feed my fish generously and wish to continue to do so as I feel that they are healthier that way, and this allows me to do more so. I mean I'm not going overboard, but it gives me a comfort margin. I have a CBB, for example, who only eats mysis, and grocery store bought food clams (mussels, Manilla, oysters, etc.). If I don't feed him what he eats, he doesn't eat. (He's already cleaned the tank of aiptasia.) I don't want to see him go without food, so I feed him a little mysis every day. Running Zeo allows me to do this without my NO3 and PO4 getting away on me.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Delphinus

Running Zeo allows me to do this without my NO3 and PO4 getting away on me.

Which is the direction I'm going. I like to feed mysis at least once a day, and need a buffer...

[Joe Reefer]

Zeovit is like your tank having its own personal trainer.

bv_reefer: I would get a kalium test kit before dosing K-Balance. Depending on which salt your using and how old your tank is, the levels may be fine.

[Canadian]

Hey, here's what I KNOW:

1) In the 2 weeks since I set up my first reef tank my SPS have never looked better than they have in the last 3 days since starting dosing.

2) The people who posted pics of their SPS to show off how much color they have without ZEO cheated and photoshopped their pics - that's a fact!

3) There have been 11 randomized controlled trials that have conclusively shown that ZEO products were able to completely eliminate malignant melanoma. Incidentally, those patients who underwent the ZEO treatment also developed incredible tans and perfect complexions.






















Wow! Impressive over-reaction from a lot of people - well done! Tony, Greg and Brad hit the nail on the head.

From an aesthetic standpoint I actually like the "pastel" colors that some people criticize Zeo users of getting when used in conjunction with T5s in a lot of tanks. If I could affordably automate the dosing of Zeo products I would most likely give it a try. But given the weekly travel that I have to do I just can't try it until the end of the summer when my schedule settles down.

[blaster]

snappy you dose AAs,what are they amino acids and how much do you dose?

[Jason McK]

OK I will chime in.

I ran an SPS dominated tank for 5 years prior to going with a larger tank and starting Zeovit.
My colour prior to using Zeovit was great. I had pieces from many local reefers that actually became way better than in others tanks. I was very happy with my results.
but I always battled nuance algae like calerpa in my main tank.
So I had a choice build a Refugium or look for alternative nitrate and phosphate removal.
This took place the exact time we started seeing Zeovit in Canada.
After weighing the options I converted my refugium plans into a Frag tank and strated Zeovit after week 2 of my main systems cycle.
I watched as my cycle finished and watched as I had only a small new tank algea bloom.

Things I've observed while on Zeovit
1. My great looking pieces still look great (no major changes)
2. My average pieces have improved colour
3. My boring pieces are now a whole ton nicer

General observations
1. Colour tips of all corals have become richer and the tips colour stretch further down the coral branch
2. using salifert Nitrate test kits there is no nitrates in the water column
3. Using Deltec Phosphate test kits there is less than 0.03 phosphates

Cautions
Unlike what is stated above Zeovit is much more sensitive to improper balance of CA, ALK, Mag. Elevated levels that are used by many is not advised as RTN or bleaching can occur (trust me I know)

Not ever supplement is for everyone. I have found that there are 2 supplements certain corals react poorly to Spur2 and Stylo-Pocci Glow. While others have seen great results form these.

My choice to run Zeo was to aid in Nitrate and Phosphate removal. The Bactria that is responsible for the removal is then used as food for your corals. At times my polyp extension is so good the beauty of the coral is lost.

I typically do not take part in this type of thread because it quickly turns into a witch hunt fuelled by ignorance. but in the spirit of the origin of the thread