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[Douglas]

Can any one show me a picture or "link", showing me a herbie style overflow? I don't think i've seen one, and would like to try to do this right, and quiet, the first time. Thanks

[mark]

Originally Posted by Douglas

Can any one show me a picture or "link", showing me a herbie style overflow? I don't think i've seen one, and would like to try to do this right, and quiet, the first time. Thanks

look here post 53 for picture

[Douglas]

I'm going to have 4 Hydor Koralia's on an Ocean pulse Quadra. It's only a 72gal tank, so that should be enough. I'm still a little in the dark with the Herbie style overflow. The last posting was for a 400 gallon tank, i think. I want to keep it simple, but with as little noise as possible. Still kind'a looking for more direction. anything? anyone? Doug

[mark]

Originally Posted by Douglas

I'm going to have 4 Hydor Koralia's on an Ocean pulse Quadra. It's only a 72gal tank, so that should be enough. I'm still a little in the dark with the Herbie style overflow. The last posting was for a 400 gallon tank, i think. I want to keep it simple, but with as little noise as posible. Still kind'a looking for more direction. anything? anyone? Doug

A Herbie in principle is the same for a 400g or a 20g it's just a matter of size of bulkhead.

With the Hydor's doesn't sound like you'll be needing to rely too much on water through the sump to supply the flow for your display. Meaning either a Herbie using small bulkheads or a Durso.

What size of flow you planning from your sump?

[Douglas]

I've got a Hydor SELTZ L45, which provides 870gal/hr for my return, in my sump. It should be sufficiant. Along with my 4 powerheads, on the wave maker. I hope that going to be enough. All the piping is 1 inch, with the exception of the standpipe.(1 1/4)

[dsaundry]

Don't want to come off looking to dumb here, but looking at your plumbing I was wondering, on your return pipe to sump, does it have about a 3-4 inch drop before it hits your glass panel?? Wouldn't that create a lot of water splash?

[Douglas]

no, I'm missing about a foot of pipe there....sorry about that, ran out of pipe that day. And have since added a few pieces. Where that pipe enters the sump, I think that's a bio ball chamber. Do most people use them? Or, are there other options? Still learning about sumps, and how to install one quietly, and the most efficiently. Doug

[Douglas]

I've made a small change in the top plumbing of my new tank. I added a few more elbows to make is a little more cleaner looking. And a couple of valve to control flow. I've also increased my pump size to a mag 12. (from the Hydor L 45). I ran this plan past Dennis at Golds, and he told me it would work, but it's old style. Well,... what can you do. I'm still debating the Herbie style over flow. Can it be changed over once the tank is filled? Doug

[calkrog]

yes you can change over once the tank has been running, which is what i did, but i recommend you do it now, its much easier before you have livestock and have to worry about getting things running again in a hurry.

i have run plain old stand pipe (very noisy), durso (acceptable noise), and now herbie (quiet). there is no comparison. another benefit for me was with the herbie that there was a backup drain pipe. i had my durso get plugged twice with snails, and what i mess it makes on my berber carpet when the tank overflows. now i have snails thoughout my overflow box with no worries, and its quiet. i can actually sleep in the basement now when the wife kicks me out of the bedroom.

btw. my setup is very similar to yours with the overflow in the middle back of the tank. now i just run my returns up the back of the tank, and it looks like you have lots of room to do that.

[Douglas]

I think this will be the way we go. I've took into conciderations all the helpful advise i had recieved, and hopefull this should be quiet and safe. Thanks Doug