Nitrates help Please

[Brent F]

Another trick I found for cleaning detritus is to take a hose and attach a filter sock to one end with an elastic. Put the end with the sock on it in the sump and siphon the detritus off the rock and sand in your tank leaving the return pump running. It works just like a water change but since you aren’t removing water you can do a far more thorough cleaning.

[andresont]

On the big system like yours i would go with DeNitrator.

http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_search...~parsed~1.html

water changes are costly on that saize and would not bring No3 down anyway, because all that junk is stored in live rocks and sand bed.

http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/s...uct_ID=cs-nno3
quote from J&L's site.
Nitrate troubles? Current research shows that sulfur based denitrators hold promise for significant nitrate reduction in heavily bio-loaded systems. These experimental biologically driven de-nitrator/reactors rely on a combination of pure sulfur, aragonite and sulfur reducing bacteria. NO-NO3® is that media.

i also like the sock and the hose water loop trick !

[untamed]

How much algae are you growing in the refugium? I believe that if you can grow enough algae, you'll use up the nitrate available in the system.

[dareefguy]

Originally Posted by untamed

How much algae are you growing in the refugium? I believe that if you can grow enough algae, you'll use up the nitrate available in the system.

That is kinda where that plan had failed. I don't have any readable phosphates in my water. So it makes it hard to grow much algae. I am managing to keep about an ice cream pail full of cheato alive. And I also have 5 mangrove pods. I have tried growing several different macro algaes but they just disinagrate. I just aquired a piece of sea grass I am hoping that will grow for me.

[dareefguy]

Originally Posted by andresont

On the big system like yours i would go with DeNitrator.

http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_search...~parsed~1.html

water changes are costly on that saize and would not bring No3 down anyway, because all that junk is stored in live rocks and sand bed.

http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/s...uct_ID=cs-nno3
quote from J&L's site.
Nitrate troubles? Current research shows that sulfur based denitrators hold promise for significant nitrate reduction in heavily bio-loaded systems. These experimental biologically driven de-nitrator/reactors rely on a combination of pure sulfur, aragonite and sulfur reducing bacteria. NO-NO3® is that media.

i also like the sock and the hose water loop trick !

I am thinking of using the LSM . I am just a little scared. I have heard of people stripping their sps.

Would I be best off to build a coil detrinator and put the LSM in there, or just put it in the second chamber of my calcium reactor?

[andresont]

Originally Posted by dareefguy

I am thinking of using the LSM . I am just a little scared. I have heard of people stripping their sps.

Would I be best off to build a coil detrinator and put the LSM in there, or just put it in the second chamber of my calcium reactor?

Well i just stripped my best colored SPS lately with ZEO,
I guess the lesson is : follow instruction to the "T’s" and if you go DIY be prepared to some surprises.
As to coil DeNitrator it worked for a lot of people and at the fraction of the cost compare to Sulfur retail unit.
I have never tried any DeNitrator , just reading on CanReef about it.

[dareefguy]

Originally Posted by Brent F

Another trick I found for cleaning detritus is to take a hose and attach a filter sock to one end with an elastic. Put the end with the sock on it in the sump and siphon the detritus off the rock and sand in your tank leaving the return pump running. It works just like a water change but since you aren’t removing water you can do a far more thorough cleaning.

Let me see if I am getting this correct. Basically you are syphoning water out of your tank into your sump through a filter sock? Neet concept and I bet it would work good. But my sump is in another room so what I do is turky baste everything before I clean my filter sock on my return line. Kinda the same thing but not as effective. I could do it your way into pails and hall it back to my sump.

[Brent F]

Originally Posted by dareefguy

Let me see if I am getting this correct. Basically you are syphoning water out of your tank into your sump through a filter sock? Neet concept and I bet it would work good. But my sump is in another room so what I do is turky baste everything before I clean my filter sock on my return line. Kinda the same thing but not as effective. I could do it your way into pails and hall it back to my sump.

That's exactly what I do. My sump is under the tank so it is easy for me to do. The big advantage of this over turkey basting is it doesn't cloud the water.

I have also done a combination of this with basting. The siphon hose catches what the turkey baster blows out of the rock and sucks up the debris before it clouds the tank.

Since this method doesn't remove any water from the tank there is no limit on how much filtering you can do.

[dareefguy]

Originally Posted by Brent F

That's exactly what I do. My sump is under the tank so it is easy for me to do. The big advantage of this over turkey basting is it doesn't cloud the water.

I have also done a combination of this with basting. The siphon hose catches what the turkey baster blows out of the rock and sucks up the debris before it clouds the tank.

Since this method doesn't remove any water from the tank there is no limit on how much filtering you can do.

Nice.. Doing this by the pail full could be like work. But I guess I could set up a pump and push it into the sump.