Pet Store Supports Puppy Mills

[findingnemo1]

Originally Posted by Der_Iron_Chef

So if I have hip dysplasia, what does that say about dear old mom and dad? Damn, I knew they were shady.

[dsaundry]

It seems to me that this thread is going the wrong way.
What do you think about seeing a three legged pup for sale ?

I have reported them to the Humane Society. I just hope they will finally be shut down.
It was stated that someone wanted to know what was thought about selling a three legged dog.

Now I am not trying to argue with all of the statements. I have agreed that "puppy mills" are horrible and should not be allowed to operate. I also stated that I support anybody who can prove that this is where they come from. I know you may not have a video showing this but it is still required to show proof of this. She has written a letter to the Humane Society..Great Has she written a letter to the head office of the pet store? Has she contacted anybody else in the company to voice a complaint with them and what has been their response? We are all very quick to make desicions sometimes without knowing all the facts. This includes surfing the net and basing our opinions on what is on the monitor. I agree that most dogs should be bought from reputable breeders, if you are going for a purebred dog. There isn't one breeder I have seen on either the CKC or the AKC that breeds mixbreed dogs. I have seen many of these dogs in shelters and in the local papers and in pet stores. Where do you draw the line. Do you pass a law stating that all purebred dogs come from breeders only? Do you prosecute anybody who sells a dog privately and is not registered with a kennel club?
My family has been in the legal field for many years and I have seen all kinds of things good+bad with the way our legal system is. Do you all remember the football player who was charged with breeding dogs for fighting and if they didnt perform he killed them. Do you all remeber the parrots somebody tried to smuggle across the border in a suitcase and 75% of the bird were dead. What about the illegal smuggling of fish and corals that are harvested and brought in the country every year. How do you guarantee the fish you bought is legal? 100% legal...It was pointed out to me by a friend who stated that if you walked into a room and saw a person holding a smoking gun and a body on the floor do you assume that he is guilty of murder? Most people jump to that conclussion. However it could have many possibilties. The shooting could have been self defence, the gun could have gone off accidently, it could be premeditated murder, amongst a few other possible things as well. I will not jump to any conclussion until I have all the facts. All breeders are not good and all pet stores are not bad. So EmilyB I hope you do shut this place down if it is doing what you say it is. Reef raf I hope you understand I read a lot of articles on the internet as well, I currently own 2 dogs and 2 cats who are very much a part of the family. As for a money back guarantee from your breeder for any genetic defects...not all breeders offer that type of clause in a bill of sale. I dont support any of these large franchise pet stores but I do have to take a bit of the Devil's advocate role here because I have run into good and bad in all walks of life. We Canadians seem to be very apethetic sometimes when it comes to letting corporations run business's like they own the world. But really folks, when was the last time you wrote or gathered a letter of complaint or a petition and sent it to your local MLA. When was the last time anybody said I wont drive my car to work because the oil companies are ripping us off. You get the idea. If the majority of the people in this country united against these industries you might see something done. Same thing with tax's too... bottom line is that if you started a petition and educated the people on all their policies do you think that "*edit* would change?? Now for the forgotten issue. If a qualified vet checks out the three legged dog and he is healthy..I would buy him.

[EmilyB]

Whew, don't you guys have to work at all ? Didn't I say I was going to write a letter ? What was that, like three hours ago....sheesh.

And in my absence Brad said it better than I would have. Reputable breeders would NEVER sell to a pet store PERIOD. Perhaps you think all MILLS are those miserable god-foresaken places in Quebec. Think again.

I'll let the head office know how pleasant it was watching the three legged pup try to balance on the wire bottom cage.

http://www.nopuppymillscanada.ca/where.htm

[dsaundry]

I am at work..One of the perks when you rin your own business..
I hope you understand I am not trying to support any large company like "petland" or a variety of other ones that are out there. But you have to admit its been a fun thread..great reactions,,wish people would get this riled up over other things sometimes. I am not trying to act "stupid" or "dumb" I am well aware where these animals come from for the most part. Proving it can be very difficult sometimes. Just so you know there are breeders that will sell to some pet stores..reputable?? Maybe not, sometimes it is just a case of Mr Smiths Cocker Spaniel jumping a fence and having his way with Mrs Jones Poodle. What do they do with the puppies? Lets not forget the old farm solution sometimes, put them in a sack and throw them in a river. Most people sell them privately or will take them to a pet store. I know it isn't right but what is the solution for these animals? I have seen quite a few mixed breeds for sale in some pet stores,{not the big ones} they are not in cages or walking on wire mesh floors.They are in proper stalls which are clean and well cared for, so what do you do there? In most cases a mixed breed dog is a hardier animal than a purebred. I have had several dogs, purebreds and mixed. Loved them all. I have never had the misfortune of having a dog with genetic issues or serious health issues. Maybe I have been lucky or as I like to believe careful about where and what I buy. I knew Quebec had a reputation but not as a "Mill" capital. I always thought the biggest fault with Quebec was their football and hockey team.. By the way the dog I had with 3 legs {lost his leg in a car accident}lived until he was 12 and was a fantastic dog.

[Delphinus]

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[langdon reefer]

Originally Posted by EmilyB

Whew, don't you guys have to work at all ? Didn't I say I was going to write a letter ? What was that, like three hours ago....sheesh.

And in my absence Brad said it better than I would have. Reputable breeders would NEVER sell to a pet store PERIOD. Perhaps you think all MILLS are those miserable god-foresaken places in Quebec. Think again.

I'll let the head office know how pleasant it was watching the three legged pup try to balance on the wire bottom cage.

http://www.nopuppymillscanada.ca/where.htm

But then again a reg. Breeder Cant Sell reg. Pups to a shop if the CKC found out OUCH thats a bad slap on the hands

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Ephraim

So reef_raf, by your rational, no matter the caliber of a dog breeder and the amount of care the put into producing healthy, happy puppies conforming to breed standards, if they sold thier litter to a pet store they would cease to be a reputable breeder? This one feature will erase all other indications of a good reputation?

Yes, exactly. Now you're getting my point. Good breeders do not sell to pet shops, they just don't. People sell to pet shops to maximize investment over time. The breeder I'm trying to buy from wants 20 questions answered, pics of my yard, etc, before she'll let me have a pup. This kind of breeder does not sell a box of puppies to a store.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Delphinus

Bark bark bark bark! Woof woof. Snuffle? Bark bark bark bark bark bark bark!

Tony, I just can't agree with that statement...

[dsaundry]

[Der_Iron_Chef]

Originally Posted by reef_raf

Tony, I just can't agree with that statement...

Agreed. Totally uncalled for. Mods these days.