Help Me Please

[mark]

Originally Posted by Salmon King

All fish have ick on them.It is dorment till something happens/stress/health.You should quaratine any new fish if you can before putting in your maine tank as you risk losing all your fish by not doing this.Rubbermaid tote is a cheap quaratine tank.Just add powerhead heater and airstone if you have one.Ps use cupramine in your quaratine but dont overdose.

Maybe, maybe not they have ich but a good idea to quarantine. I'm being a little hypocritical here in saying QT stuff as I haven't always, but looking by me not, I brought something into my system. Now I'm looking at some major work breaking down a 145g display, disrupting fish and corals, where as it all could have been prevented by setting up a small little 10g (size depending on fish) with a heater and HOB filter or even a plastic tub.

As for cupramine, it can be harmful even if done right so wouldn't suggest using it unless for sure the fish in QT show signs and then probably only after trying hypo-salinity and finding that unsuccessful.

[Matt]

Am I the only one who thought "troll"? Apologies to the OP if I'm off base, but...

[howdy20012002]

SK, please give one document that proves what you have stated...not all fish have Ich...it can be treated and removed 100 percent by hypsolanity.
ich cannot remain dormant for more than a month which is why you leave your tank fishless for over 4 weeks, preferably 6 weeks.
I have killed a few fish trying to treat with Copper but I haven't killed one fish with hyposalinity.
the only thing that SK said that I agree with is that you should quarantine new fish for at least 2 weeks.

DF - From the sounds of it, you have a fish only tank.
if you don't have any inverts, snails, or corals, i would lower the SG of your tank between 1.010 and 1.013 and leave it like that for a month.(hyposalinity)
this is will kill off the ich. read up on the internet and see how to do this.
You basically just add fresh water to the tank until the salt level drops low enough.
if you still have the cleaner shrimp, remove it before you lower the SG.
you cannot leave anything other than fish in the tank though cuz it will kill it.
Copper isn't a 100 percent effective and you have to be very careful how much you add as it is toxic and will kill your fish.

You should not have a tang in a 32 g as it doesn't provide enough swimming space.
I have a very small purple tang in a 29 gallon, however I am preparing to move it into a larger tank when it gets bigger.
IMO, you don't need a skimmer for a tank. Lots of my tanks don't have one.
However, that means that you will need to do more water changes as the water will foul quicker.
Ich will not hurt your LR.
is your fluval a canister filter? if so, I would get rid of it...they tend to just become nitrate farms.
filtres, IMO aren't really necessary. I have hang on's on my smaller tanks but just to keep the surface of the water clean.
You can have just a powerhead in there that is at least 10 x the gallons of your tank and that will suffice.
in a 32 gallon, opinions vary, however, I would say that 3 -4 smaller fish would be fine.

I am sure others will have things to add...and I sure that others will disagree.
However, I am just giving you my advice from my own personal experience.

HTH
Neal

[mark]

If the tank is FOWLR would be hesitant for a whole tank treatment of hypo-salinitity due to the possible effect to life on the LR (pods, sponges, bacteria etc).

[howdy20012002]

it will not affect bacteria.
probably would effect pods and sponge.

[Pier Pressure]

A fifteen gallon aquarium housing 5 fish and other creatures means that you are overstocked, I think. I have five fish in a 29 gallon and I consider myself to be right at the limit. As others have said, the tangs are going to need a new home regardless.

[Snappy]

Do some water changes and buy some ich medicine that doesn't contain metals. Most SW LFS have it available. Wais & Elite carry it for sure and I am sure Gold would too.
Now that said IME tangs are ich-magnets. They can develop ich spots just from stress and then they can be gone a few hours or days later. If you want to run a nano tank which I would consider both yours to be, you will have better success if you stock it accordingly. If you want more fish then you need to have a system with equipment that can handle the bioload and a fluval filter doesn't cut it. Sorry, you will have to spend some more $$$$ unless you stay with a FOWLR.

[Salmon King]

Almost all fish stores copper there fish only tanks as well as a lot of public aquariums with fish only displays as they cannot afford huge losses.

[digital_fish]

My 15 gallon tank seemed perfect though and my blue tang never seemed to have a problem. My yellow tang as of now doesn't seem to have any spots and the tank seems back to normal. Of course, I don't know that for sure though.

So should I just leave it with the 5 fish I have now? I do have 5 snails in the tank too.

[Salmon King]

howdy 20012002 is right about the hyposalanity it works. As of copper killing fish it only happens if you overdose.The ocean has a certain level of copper in it as does (THE REEF PLUS) .You should reed the labels on some additives as I am sure it will shock people and yes all fish have parasites they are just dorment waiting for the right time to come out.Stress and bad water are the biggest reasons.