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Old 10-29-2007, 12:38 PM
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Skimmin, are u kidding me?

All you had to do was ask for the fish back...I would have gladly given them back.

just because you bought them for 110.00 don't blame me.
I sell them for 25.00 a piece.
therefore 30.00 for the pair is reasonable in my mind (and also about my cost wholesale)..I do try to make some money.... and you were the one that brought up the idea of me giving you the suggested store credit for the clownfish.
I brought in 3 fish in the attempt to give you what you wanted.
One of which died.
the other two were fighting for dominance as all clownfish do(especially the maroons). One was losing and had a few nicks in the fins...awww, guess those fins will never grow back eh?

I would not have brought those fish in because they are known to be aggressive and most people don't want them...but I did it to help you out...some thanks I guess.

This is also the beauty of owning my own store - Aaron, don't call me back as I won't waste my time with you in the future.

thanks for shopping at marine experience

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Old 10-29-2007, 02:34 PM
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Neal this has been ****ing me off recently too. Thankyou for saying what i wanted to say, alot nicer and more P.C. than I would have said it.

I say to anyone that has a problem with Candian aquarium retail pricing, go shop in the usa, have it shipped to you, deal with that headache. I am sure I will run into you at a store around town here very soon when you give up that endevor.
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Old 10-29-2007, 04:52 PM
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This hobby is not for the faint of heart.

It is a very expensive endeavor. You are constantly having to spend real dollars (canadian or us) just to replace lights, supplies and equipment. Then you still have to come up with money for that new and exciting fish or coral. Without our LFS it would be almost impossible for us to continue in the hobby. They not only bring in inventory (paid for on yesterdays exchange rates) that sits there waiting for the day we need it, but they also are our main sounding board for the best first hand information available. You know they have nothing better to do than stand there and explain the many options available to help solve your little algae or fish conflict problem. Oh ya sometimes they have to explain it to you more than once and then you go buy what you need from the states to save what 5 - 10%.
No I know that after 9 years in this hobby I for one would not likely be in this hobby if not for the J&L's and the OA's of the world.

Thanks guys as I really enjoy this hobby.

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Old 10-29-2007, 05:06 PM
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Just my two cents.

The price differential does not sit at the level of the retail shop. The change needs to come at the manufacturing level.

If two of the exact same skimmer are manufactured in Germany and one is shipped to a LFS in Canada and one is shipped to a LFS in the United States with the dollar at parity and assuming that both stores have the same overhead and expected profit margin there should be no real difference in the price.

This of course should only apply to material that has been manufactured and shipped since the dollar has reached parity and it may take some time to ensure that the dollar does not vary from parity or near but in a years time I would expect to see prices on an equal footing. I know that we have to expect some differences on price based on different shipping lanes, duties and so forth.

Personally I have bought 99% of all my fish goods dry and live from local fish stores in my near three years in this hobby. I would persoanlly rather support my local retailer than even an online source like J&L. I have made a few purchases online but only becuase there were products I wanted that I could not find locally.
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:23 PM
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Underlying this is a lot of emerging (formerly repressed) resentment and anger about the long-term weakness of the C$, and how that has affected us when making purchases. Many retailers were getting skinned for years, and are reluctant to give up the gravy when they finally see some.

Also, bear in mind that many of the prices in the US will be going UP to meet us. The US dollar is falling against world currencies, not just C$. Some of the price discrepencies are the result of inventory levels in the US (old prices) not just in Canada.

The tax and duty rates, population density (market size, shipping, economies of scale), energy costs, and a host of other factors will keep Canadian prices somewhat higher than the US on a lot of items for a long time (forever)?
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[quote=digital-audiophile;278851]Just my two cents.

The price differential does not sit at the level of the retail shop. The change needs to come at the manufacturing level.

If two of the exact same skimmer are manufactured in Germany and one is shipped to a LFS in Canada and one is shipped to a LFS in the United States with the dollar at parity and assuming that both stores have the same overhead and expected profit margin there should be no real difference in the price.

**********One difference I could see is Volume. Don't forget how small our population base is compared to the US. California has more people than Canada!!! I'm sure the "Big Player" vendors in the US could move volumes of product that would make our "Big player" vendors look like a joke in comparison. I run into this all the time in my industry, there are retailers down there who buy way more volume of certain product lines than we as a Distributor can buy. The cost is almost always lower with volume. So now you have US Retailers buying better than Canadian Distributors!!!! This isn't always the case, but it's not uncommon.************

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Old 10-29-2007, 05:37 PM
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howdy20012002 I agree with you completely and skimmin no offence but your very ignorant and if I was howdy I wouldn't deal with you anymore either. You wanted him to order in the maroons and he can't guarantee the shape there gonna come in or the fact you got absolutely r*ped if you payed $110 for your perculas. Him giving you $15 each is actually fairly generous as most would likely only give you $10 so if I was you I'd stop complaining and apologize cause wasn't his fault and your the one in the wrong on this one
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I do not disagree with you, its all about supply and demand. I can understand differential based on the volume but not the 50%+ percent I see on many products (not just talking fish related)
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I do not disagree with you, its all about supply and demand. I can understand differential based on the volume but not the 50%+ percent I see on many products (not just talking fish related)
Don't get me wrong, there are allot of industries growing fat off the dollar. I'm talking about this industry. I honestly think it's pretty clean....There will always be some vendors who charge more because they feel they can. Some will charge more because they have to (can't buy enough volume to get the best prices) But, if you shop around, the prices are truely good here in Canada....and will get better in time. It doesn't hurt to ask your LFS if they can match a price + shipping to your door. Sometimes they can, sometimes they can't. But at least give them the opportunity to keep you in their store. Sometimes you'll find their great service is worth a little extra too.
PS-I'm not ranting to you Digital-audiophile about supporting your LFS(sounds like you already do!)
 


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