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Old 10-15-2007, 07:09 PM
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I never have to drain the main display for waterchanges only the sump, therefore the corals remain in water but I find large water changes good for certain corals ie softies but not too well for sps anyone agree?
I've never had a problem in the past with large water changes and sps. Of course the last 18 months all my sps are in my 175g and I don't have a mixing bucket big enough to do a large water change, I wish I did
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:01 PM
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I did a 100% water change once, solved my nitrate buildup pretty lickedy-split But it was a 20g tank and it had no fish, only a carpet anemone and some corals. But they all liked the outcome ...

There are times when I look at my 110g cube tank now with its elevated nitrates and I wish I could do a 100% changeout, I just don't have enough reservoirs to do it (and I have fish in there so that's no good). But I'd love to be able to change out even 50% or 75% of it just to be a kick-in-the-melon to the nitrates that are there.

Other than the bad salt (Kent, about a year ago? Maybe 2 years ago now, when they had that alk issue??), I've never had an issue from the waterchange itself. But yeah, I do match the temp and SG carefully, and do the premix for 24 hours thing too, so that probably helps a bit. I'd hate to see the results of a large scale water change that introduced a drastic temperature change.

I tell you one thing though, and maybe it's worse for me than others since I have tanks that have at least 5 years of crud buildup in the plumbing, when I turn the pumps off and turn them back on, the stuff that comes flying out of the sump return outputs is something I wonder if it would be better off not having been disturbed and released "en masse" into the water (ie, did I just invalidate my water change). I need a way to scrape out the pipes Or maybe it's better just to redo the plumbing every few years or so
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:15 PM
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It's interesting that nobody is speaking up for the small water changes.

It was comments like this

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Well I had done a 50 % water change a few days ago(risky I thought myself )
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Really what I would do is (here come the flames) a 80 or 90% water change
that got me curious.

It's not just canreef but on every reef forum I visit, there is a group of people who will tell you to never change out more then 10-20% of the water. I think that a lot of tank crashes could of been saved over the years if people were more willing to trust the lone person who says "Do a 90% water change"
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:11 PM
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Marie, I completely agree. While I regularly do 10 or 15% changes for maintenance, if I thought I had an issue that a 100% change would fix, I'd do it ( well, back when I had a 100g tub for mixing). The "rule" of 10% is just being safe and we always tout "make small changes slowly" in a reef, but properly prepared water is just like the water in the tank without all the crud in it.
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A 100% W/C is like starting up a new tank and putting a whole bunch of corals in. Hey that's basically what I did well not that fast I waited every other day.
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I usaly only did 20% but I moved my tank and/or redid stuff and 5 times I did 100% waterchanges. never lost anything on a 100% change or suffered any ill effects. just match salinity, PH and temp as close as you can, and away you go.

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Old 10-16-2007, 12:07 AM
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I usaly only did 20% but I moved my tank and/or redid stuff and 5 times I did 100% waterchanges. never lost anything on a 100% change or suffered any ill effects. just match salinity, PH and temp as close as you can, and away you go.

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It's not very cost effective to do large water changes all the time, only when you have problems . In fact I'm reaching the point where I don't do water changes unless I notice problems starting
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