talking about T5 and SPS color !

[zulu_principle]

Marc

I was going to PM but thought the forum was a better spot for this.

When you say there should not be a debate, what do you mean ?

Im not really sure, i have seen both but not with the color from the european sites.

Is it more the additives or is the light better for sps ?

My bet is not but at the higher voltage does that make the lamp burn brighter ?

On the note of whats available, anything is available, the issue is purely supply and demand and the outcome is price.

There are a few that would pay, landed, sight unseen and no regard to condition on various species, but with the associated costs and risks not sure there are many (even those that heavily invested).

What do they say, "priceless".

[SuperFudge]

Originally Posted by zulu_principle

When you say there should not be a debate, what do you mean ?

I mean t-5, pc, halide,vho and regular outputs all work....its our improper application of them or to the system that may not.

Originally Posted by zulu_principle

Im not really sure, i have seen both but not with the color from the european sites.

Im unsure what your asking?

If its regarding coral species, then your saying youve seen corals they have that you cant get ?

Or coral color from these lights ?

I havent seen one with color from anywhere that any of us shouldnt also expect to see .

Originally Posted by zulu_principle

Is it more the additives or is the light better for sps ?

I dont know on your tank, but i can tell you on mine

*EDIT* What i should say, is any system needs to be adressed not by what the other guys doing, but the next trouble causing issue in any given tank, one at a time until you see what you wanted to see.
It may be both, it may be none, some of each or something totaly unrelated to either of those.

Originally Posted by zulu_principle

What do they say, "priceless".

yeah, we all know you got a couple stashed in that display...cmon whip em out n Lets see em ! .

[DJKoop]

Originally Posted by SuperFudge

There is no question in my mind that we do infact recieve the same corals as anyone else, but we have to remember the size of the markets and hobbiest communities here, if we are at 10% of the size of the rest of the worlds hobbiest communities...well, that`ll be reflected in availability, as thats what our market supports.
Sure, Vendors/Retailers who buy more will get first dibs on premium grades and possibly exclusivity, but they are generally available to all...sad, but whoever spends the most money wins in this instance.



Marc.

I agree here 100%. I had a discusion with a wholesale buyer who went to Bali to pick out an order. He said there were corals there that make anything we get here look pale and uncolored. The real good corals all go to Japan. They have the market there that is willing to pay 4 times what we pay here. Therefore they get first pick.

[Der_Iron_Chef]

So hey...about those T5 bulb combinations....

I'm interested in the Fiji Pink, Fiji Purple and Coral Light bulbs by Korallen (I think?). Albert, any product knowledge/availability regarding these particular bulbs? I was perusing some German sites (thank goodness I can read German), and they were roughly $45/bulb, not including shipping.

Yikes.

[SuperFudge]

Originally Posted by DJKoop

I agree here 100%. I had a discusion with a wholesale buyer who went to Bali to pick out an order. He said there were corals there that make anything we get here look pale and uncolored. The real good corals all go to Japan. They have the market there that is willing to pay 4 times what we pay here. Therefore they get first pick.

But, they cant take em all !....we still get some "leftovers", But garanteed there a few of the same ones they recieved, and if you pick em right, the same ones that are in many of our lfs displays right now and that youve seen already 10 times that you were previously in there.
They just may have browned up in that specific display...

Remember Cracker Jacks ?

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by Der_Iron_Chef

So hey...about those T5 bulb combinations....

I'm interested in the Fiji Pink, Fiji Purple and Coral Light bulbs by Korallen (I think?). Alberta, any product knowledge/availability regarding these particular bulbs? I was perusing some German sites (thank goodness I can read German), and they were roughly $45/bulb, not including shipping.

Yikes.

Might be in the works on my end. We'll see, maybe a nice Fall season pick up?

One bulb that was just released that may be worth taking a look at is the ATI ProColor. They're pink, quite pink. I'm thinking they might be very similar to the KZ Fiji Pink's in appearance, but they're definitely meant as a supplementary bulb.

Here's some product details:

http://shops.venditio.com/meerwasser...0iNDA0Ig%3D%3D

*Run through a translator if you can't read German. I did, har har har.