The Most Worthless Thread on Canreef

[justinl]

"That's wierd...cause i heard you've been padding since jr. High."

oh... snap.

[BCOrchidGuy]

caustic soda is an Acid that's used to raise the pH of mud?? does that mean it's less acidic than the mud.. or a more alkaline acid? Oh my, hope I don't look more confused than normal.

Doug...

ps Wonder how many posts I have now.

[justinl]

time for a lil science boys and girls!

what is pH (i hope you know this already)? It is the "partial Hydrogen" in a solution. That means that protons aka Hydrogen ions (H+) occupying a volume of liquid. So where does H+ come from? well there are two kinds of chemicals called acids (pH less than 7) and bases (pH greater than 7). pH is different from a "concentration" (like ppm) in that it's a logarithmic function... it's backwards! so a pH of 1 is satrated with H+ and a pH of 14 (max pH) is very very low in H+. every increment of 1 is an increase tenfold in H+.

Take muriatic acid for example: HCl. when in an aqueous solution (contains water) the HCl partially breaks apart into its ions H+ and Cl-. and pH is the measure of how much H+ is in that solution. Water itself also contributes to pH, hence the neutral pH of 7.

Bases are the H+ deficient form of their acidic cousins. basically they steal H+ from the solution and therefore raise te pH.

fun times! now where was i? oh yeah, if a solution's pH is below 7 it's considered acidic. if it's at 7 its called neutral. if it's above 7 then it's called basic aka alkaline. so to answer your question, there's no such thing as an "alkaline acid". that my friend is an oxymoron!

so about caustic soda. well from a chemistry point of view that makes no sense! if anything caustic soda should drop the pH of mud (which is usually around 7 give or take a bit)

that was a fun rant.

[demon666]

ok the mud i was refering to is not the mud in you backyard it is "DRILLING MUD" which is used in the oil drilling industry to carry drill cuttings to the surface and to maintain an open hole.... the usual ingredents in a gel kem system are bentonite clay caustic or soda ash oh why am i bothering im the only dumb rig hand on here we also use it in our boilers to raise or maintain a ph of 10-10.5 im no derick hand just a motor hand that has to mix the stuff for my lazy derick hand!!!!!!!!:b iggrin:

oh but thanks for the science class i never was that good at chemistry in school so it brought back alot of memories like how many "f" grades i got........... lol

[justinl]

F is for F... antastic! ... i would also accept "abulous" or "electrophillic aromatic substitution"

[Murminator]

Originally Posted by demon666

ok the mud i was refering to is not the mud in you backyard it is "DRILLING MUD" which is used in the oil drilling industry to carry drill cuttings to the surface and to maintain an open hole.... the usual ingredents in a gel kem system are bentonite clay caustic or soda ash oh why am i bothering im the only dumb rig hand on here we also use it in our boilers to raise or maintain a ph of 10-10.5 im no derick hand just a motor hand that has to mix the stuff for my lazy derick hand!!!!!!!!:b iggrin:

oh but thanks for the science class i never was that good at chemistry in school so it brought back alot of memories like how many "f" grades i got........... lol

And i'm just the dumb guy that hauls the stuff it out to location and waits for the very smart intelligent oh and good looking rig hands to show us where to unload so we don't have to wait around for ever in a mud hole and listening to the stories

[demon666]

lol ok murray ill try to help you out really fast if i see ya on location.... just cuz ya talk so sweet

[Beverly]

I thought we weren't going to talk about drilling mud and caustic soda anymore Oh, let me get a grip.... This is Alberta

Completely off topic.... I received the rest of my UK, US and Australia Calico Critter shipments today. Just waiting to receive the exotic items from Singapore

A few pics....

Fisher Cat Family


Norwood Mouse Family


Susie Snow-Warren's Doll Houses


The furniture in the little dollhouses are so small I need to use tweezers to arrange them.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by justinl

time for a lil science boys and girls!

what is pH (i hope you know this already)? It is the "partial Hydrogen" in a solution. That means that protons aka Hydrogen ions (H+) occupying a volume of liquid. So where does H+ come from? well there are two kinds of chemicals called acids (pH less than 7) and bases (pH greater than 7). pH is different from a "concentration" (like ppm) in that it's a logarithmic function... it's backwards! so a pH of 1 is satrated with H+ and a pH of 14 (max pH) is very very low in H+. every increment of 1 is an increase tenfold in H+.

Take muriatic acid for example: HCl. when in an aqueous solution (contains water) the HCl partially breaks apart into its ions H+ and Cl-. and pH is the measure of how much H+ is in that solution. Water itself also contributes to pH, hence the neutral pH of 7.

Bases are the H+ deficient form of their acidic cousins. basically they steal H+ from the solution and therefore raise te pH.

fun times! now where was i? oh yeah, if a solution's pH is below 7 it's considered acidic. if it's at 7 its called neutral. if it's above 7 then it's called basic aka alkaline. so to answer your question, there's no such thing as an "alkaline acid". that my friend is an oxymoron!

so about caustic soda. well from a chemistry point of view that makes no sense! if anything caustic soda should drop the pH of mud (which is usually around 7 give or take a bit)

that was a fun rant.

Hey, thats to serious for this dumb thread. Be careful. No serious postings in a stupid thread or it will be deleted.

[andsoitgoes]

Originally Posted by Doug

Hey, thats to serious for this dumb thread. Be careful. No serious postings in a stupid thread or it will be deleted.

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?