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03-27-2007, 07:09 PM
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there are ethical motivations behind many of the vegetarians and vegans due to malpractice and mistreatment of the animals that supply us with our meat. Have you ever seen the state animals are kept in and how they are treated? It is not a pretty sight.
Others just don't like the taste of meat. that simple. It's like how some people don't like fish (yes i know that's meat, it's just more common than not liking beef for example). Still others do it for religious purposes. 
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03-27-2007, 07:22 PM
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I totally understand the religious reasons.....and the different religions and different kinds of meat.....maybe im not understanding being raised on a farm? I have no idea..... I am just really not understanding the ethically or morally part....again....sorry for being dumb on the subject
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03-27-2007, 07:42 PM
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The "thing" that finally pushed me over the edge was deboning a salmon. I have a friend who is native, and I was able to buy a full salmon for $10. Problem is that it needed to be deboned, and also still had its head on it. The entire process pushed me in an avenue I was already travelling, and it became clear that eating animals was not what I ever wanted to do again, if I could at all help it. I love all animals (well, maybe not spiders or mosquitos  ) and I personally see no need to kill them for food, or have them killed for me.Does that help a bit?
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03-27-2007, 07:55 PM
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sorry....nope.....I totally understand the whale hunting....and the dolphin hunting they do in Japan...(whick totally made me so mad) but then you have to think of it from their view which isnt alway easy to do.....you may not like it....but who am I to say....same as some asian cultures who eat cats or dogs or whatever......I guess really.....if we all liked fords....why would we have Chevs or imports....so many choices....
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03-27-2007, 07:58 PM
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ok Justin......you made it sound totally mean.........I was in no way saying anything is wrong with being a vegetarian....I'm just trying to understand it...or how you get to the being a vegetarian....the ethical question is really the part I was and am still having a problem with understanding....maybe its my thick skull...dunno....
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03-27-2007, 08:32 PM
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Veal is made by trapping a baby cow so that it cannot lose its baby fat. It's then killed. Making cows "Kosher" will have a Rabbi come and cut the jugular vein of the cow, bleeding it out. Chickens that are not free range are stuffed into boxes BARELY big enough for them to fit into. they're forced to produce endlessly and usually have no feathers due to stress. Cows that are milked are also forced to stay pregnant, as that's the only way they produce milk. Cows used for food are killed generally by being electrocuted or as Justin said, having their head bashed in after having a rather crappy life beforehand. You're also getting animals pumped full of hormones and other things that will artificially make them taste better. Going organic generally sees better treatment of animals, but they still have to be killed in order to eat. The way I see it is more the buddhist perspective. I don't need to end the life of anything in order to fill my tummy. End of story  But I think this is getting a SMIDGE off track, we can discuss it in another thread, but for now - Drew just needs some suggestions of things he can eat!
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03-27-2007, 08:54 PM
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oh Justin....I just read your thread and mine again...and when I said you made it sound totally mean was in respect to the treatment of the cow.... I wasnt meaning that I thought your comment was mean.....and yes....back to the topic of what Drew can eat.....
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#8
03-27-2007, 07:44 PM
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lol don't worry about it BC564. You don't have to agree, just respect them in that they have their own opinions.
imagine you're a cow for a moment. Your entire life consists of sitting crammed with other cows in a stall with the occassional roam in a field. some cows are not fed well. Many end up eating their own dung because their stalls are not cleaned out. getting branded by a red hot iron in the ass sucks. your teats hurt because you are forced to produce a ridiculously unatural amount of milk. every week or so you're hooked up to a machine that sucks the milk out of you. eventually you stop producing milk and you are moved to the slaughter house where you will be killed and sliced apart for food. not a very pleasant story is it? I still eat meat but am still thouroughly disgusted by the practice.
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