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Old 12-10-2002, 01:38 AM
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I think it also depends on the fish. For easy-to-catch fish, its not as important. But for fish that are often caught by cyanide, I would pay more to buy the tank raised fish simply because its guaranteed to be cyanide-free. Now, my guess is that those hard-to-catch fish are also the ones that don't breed in captivity so this might be pointless.
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Old 12-10-2002, 01:47 AM
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I voted yes, although I certainly don't need any more fish....

From what I've seen, the ORA fish are mostly clowns and dottybacks which I wouldn't be in the market for anymore anyway. Those are captive bred tho, vs tank raised, is that correct?

Captive raised tangs would have appealed to me, but as I say, I'm full up, for maybe 40 or 50 years now..........
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Old 12-10-2002, 02:52 AM
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I also do not belive that something should be more expensive just because it is biodegradable, or enviromentlay friendly..


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Old 12-10-2002, 03:16 AM
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Look at some of the related costs associated with setting up an aquaculture facility. Firstly you need a farily sizeable operation to make it commercially viable. ORA grows out the clowns for 8-9 months before they are marketable. With ten different varieties of clowns you can imagine the space to hold all the grow out and brood stock. Add operating costs, labour, and a bit of profit, it starts to add up quickly.

The flip side is that this product is a far superior product. A. ocellaris and P. biaculeatus (gold stripe) are about 1.5" and A. clarkii are about 2". The fish travel much better and obviously adapt to aquarium life very easily, since this is all they have known. They will eat almost anything, although I suggest Vibragro food in the diet to help maintain colour.

Quite a few retailers have discontinued carrying clowns based on high DOA rates. I have witnessed entire batches of clowns die within two days of arrival. This is not uncommon. I much prefer to leave the clowns out in the wild where they belong. I have no problem stepping up to the plate and buying captive bred/tank raised product where it is available.
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Old 12-10-2002, 03:17 AM
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I think that its a great idea and Im already supporting it.
Why pull fish from the ocean when they are available tank raised. Its well worth the extra couple dollars. I currently own tank raised bangaii cardinals and clowns.
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Old 12-10-2002, 04:15 AM
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I would spend the extra for tank raised fish. Does anyone sell tank raised gobies
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Old 12-10-2002, 04:36 AM
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In my opinion where captive raised fish or coral are available, we should not be importing them from the oceans period. I am surprised to see that someone would not be prepared to pay ten bucks more.

Price should not be the factor.
We should support those who are striving to develope a captive only business. Reefers who are harvesting frags are part of the captive business.
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Old 12-10-2002, 04:58 AM
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Sorry to pop this little fantasy bubble, but 9 out of ten people going into a LFS to buy the average fish for their average tank is NOT going to pay even a dollar more for anything...period!!
Most people on this board claim they would and perhaps when the wallet comes out we in fact would. But c'mon!! We're not your average hobbyist. We spend hours reading and talking and reading some more. We care about our hobby for obvious reasons. We don't buy dead coral skelatons, we don't buy a lot of different things for ethical issues.
But be very honest ....we are not exactly sane :P
I have been hanging out in fish stores for many years, and Joe customer is still the same. He/she doesn't give a crap about anything other than a pretty tank to impress all his/her friends. Most fish get treated like candles....you buy them because they're pretty and you replace them when the burn out. No harm done, there's plenty of fish in the sea!!! That's what my mom used to say anyway
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Old 12-10-2002, 05:07 AM
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I voted yes, and would pay 1.5 to 2 times "normal" prices, but these fish would also have to housed in there own system at the store. I have had horrible success with tangs from stores. To know these fish are captive raised, and in "clean" tanks makes them more of an investment than a risk.

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Old 12-10-2002, 05:08 AM
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Brad is so very correct. The average consumer will always look for the cheapest fish available. So much has to be done with respect to education. This applies not only to the average hobbyist but also the retailers. They too must start to be more responsible in their actions by making this product available to the consumer. It is out there!
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