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Old 10-15-2006, 05:15 AM
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on the structure i drilled tons of holes to prevent anaerobic areas (i believe its called anaerobic, correct me if i'm wrong) anyways i used these holes to attach the rock with zip ties. it work awesome, i secured almost every rock with 2 zip ties to prevent them from turning. intially i tried using epoxy but it didnt work to well. i designed the structure to come apart in sections. i would take a section out sit it on the ground and would attach rock to it. way easier than doing it in the tank. i then reassembled everything in the tank.
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Old 10-15-2006, 05:32 AM
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very nice colin!!!
I also zip tied my rock, only to eggcrate instead of PVC. I really like the open design of your rockwork.
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:02 AM
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Ever considered a basement sump. Many many advantages to that.
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i have thought of it but i dont think i want to drill holes through the floor for plumbing and if i was to go into the wall and then drill through i dont think i could hide the plumbing. but i may be wrong, just never seen any pictures of how people do it.
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:00 PM
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I agree with the basement sump if planning a new installation, having one myself, but looks like you're getting everything setup fine. Would be sad to rip out all your work and start over.

Seems like a lot of though and planning has gone into this, looks great.
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Old 11-09-2006, 03:45 PM
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i have thought of it but i dont think i want to drill holes through the floor for plumbing and if i was to go into the wall and then drill through i dont think i could hide the plumbing. but i may be wrong, just never seen any pictures of how people do it.
I cut a hole the exact same size as a normal heating vent. When I move (if I take out the tank) I will put a vent there and nobody will know the difference.

In my basement I have a suspended ceiling and the pipes just ran along the ceiling to the sump room.
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if i had more info on basement sumps when i started planning then i may have gone that route but it would kill me now to tear it all down and start again because i love everything about the setup and it turned out better then i imagined. the only thing that drives me nuts right now is the wiring rats nest but once i get my profilux controller then i will clean it all up but for now i just have to suffer with it
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Not that I'm trying to push this idea to you but if you were to leave the close loop in the stand but extend the remaining sump and equipment into the basement, will it be that much work? I can't see all the piping between the sump and CL pump but I see two drains into the sump through the bulkheads. For that two connection, you would only have to cut the 1.5" tubing, add a coupling, and then extend the 1.5" PVC into the basement where the sump is located. Then find a return pump that you can connect from the basement to your return lines. Keep in mind you don't need a huge return pump since most of your flow is from your CL.I run my 180g sump in the basement and it is so SWEEEEEEEEEET I'm only using a mak4 for the return at 14' head height but soon I would like to upgrade to a high pressure iwaki55 or pcx-55 when I get my other tank set-up.Think about the pros and cons for your system but I would highly recommend moving the sump to the basement if you can, if you are able, and if you willing to do the extra work.
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good points. marc from hidden reef was the first one to put the idea in my head about doing a basement sump and i have thought about it. the extra work is not what worries me it is a matter of drilling through the floor, i mean the house is only a year old. if i did go in the basement the closed loop would have to go down there as well because the one thing i really dislike is the bloody humming of the pumps, with just the return pump going it is alright but once the barracuda fires up for CL it is loud and annoying at times. chin do you have pics or links to your setup as far as plumbing the tank to sump and what not. or does anyone have a link so i can what it looks like going through the floor. i've seen pictures of the basement setup but none of the upper floor where tank is and going through the floor. now you guys got me seriously thinking about this. the wife is going to kill me! maybe not, she hasnt yet with all the stuff i keep doing to this system
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If you put the closed loop in the basement your barracuda pump would onle be pumping at max 1000gph which is a waste of a good pump, plus the energy used skyrockets as well.
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