HLLE - Miracle Mud/Feeding experiment

[andrewsk]

Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic

It would be a neat expt. but expensive. Aren't blue tangs over $50 each, even for the small ones? Also, I was under the impression that it took a long time to get this disease & the fish are usually bigger, not tiny, when they get it. Therefore, 10g or so is nowhere near big enough for a fast swimming fish like a tang.

Just my thoughts,

Anthony

I had a small tang that had it and it came on pretty quick (if 2 months is quick). I do agree on the 10 gallons size, but I have seen them in Nanos before, although they were small fish (1 inch). (God knows what they did with them when they got bigger)

I guess you could go up to 45's (15 each). Anthing Larger and I would have a hard time finding space.

[albert_dao]

Heh, I sold them all over the weekend... $30 a pop.


Anyway, I've owned several tangs over the years and have never run into HLLE myself. I'm a big fan of pellets and mysis though and they all get fed 2-10 times a day, pending on how often I walk by the tank.

[Veng68]

I read somewhere that HLLE may be caused by high levels of nitrate in the aquarium system.

I guess that's why miricle mud systems may help with the HLLE because it reduces the nitrates in the system.

Cheers,
Vic [veng68]

[andrewsk]

Originally Posted by Veng68

I read somewhere that HLLE may be caused by high levels of nitrate in the aquarium system.

I guess that's why miricle mud systems may help with the HLLE because it reduces the nitrates in the system.

Cheers,
Vic [veng68]

Interesting. In that case, a remote Deep Sand Bed would have the same effect.

[Pescador]

My Blue and Purple tang had HLLE in my 120 with a 60g mud sump. It gradually kept getting worse over the last 4 years even with Selcon and a variety of foods.

Over the last year it has just about completely reversed in the 220g. Still have a mud sump (110g) and quit using Selcon. Most of the electronics are the same and I use a grounding probe. I do use a Phosban reactor now but I've never had detectable nitrates anyway.


I feed them mysis, Formula flake and Cyclop-eeze. I don't know but maybe less stress in the bigger tank? There are only six fish. Could be ammo for the Tang police.

[andrewsk]

Also very interesting. Thanks.

That is why it would be so interesting to set up SOME type of HLLE experiment. People find ways to fix the problem but are never certain exactly what it was that caused the reversal.

My friend swears his reversed when he switched to Spectrum Foods.

So far we have claims and disclaimers for:

Selcon
Vitamins
Miracle Mud
Larger Tanks
Grounding Probes

How great would it be to have 40 tangs with HLLE in 5 seperate systems and test all of these on them!

Albert, Can you get me a deal on 40 Tangs?

Originally Posted by Pescador

My Blue and Purple tang had HLLE in my 120 with a 60g mud sump. It gradually kept getting worse over the last 4 years even with Selcon and a variety of foods.

Over the last year it has just about completely reversed in the 220g. Still have a mud sump (110g) and quit using Selcon. Most of the electronics are the same and I use a grounding probe. I do use a Phosban reactor now but I've never had detectable nitrates anyway.


I feed them mysis, Formula flake and Cyclop-eeze. I don't know but maybe less stress in the bigger tank? There are only six fish. Could be ammo for the Tang police.

[albert_dao]

haha, I don't even think I can get that many in!