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Old 07-26-2006, 06:25 AM
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I was told the green serpent was a bristle star and was safe and friendly??
YOU WERE TOLD WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG.


LOLOLOLOLOL, anyway, without actually showing you how to stack rock, here's some pointers:

Get a good diamond drill bit. You'll need it. Drilling rock gives you so many advantages over just trying to stack it.

Get some long nylon zip ties.

Get a length of 3/4" pvc pipe and a bunch of elbows and T's.

Make a frame out of the pvc. Drill holes in rocks. Zip tie rocks to frame.

Once you have partial rockwork on the frame, you can just fill in the gaps with rubble and coral. Great way to get a lot of volume filled in with minimal rock.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:49 PM
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You can also drill holes in the rock the same size as the PVC, and use short lenths to connect the rock, without building a whole PVC frame.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:58 PM
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I can't imagine someone giving me eroneous information......

Anybody got some pictures of a frame that I can get some hints from? And here I was thinking that my rock work looked pretty good. I take it you make a frame to sort of fit the back tank wall and just keep filling it in then lean it all up against the back wall?

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LOLOLOLOLOL, anyway, without actually showing you how to stack rock, here's some pointers:

Get a good diamond drill bit. You'll need it. Drilling rock gives you so many advantages over just trying to stack it.

Get some long nylon zip ties.

Get a length of 3/4" pvc pipe and a bunch of elbows and T's.

Make a frame out of the pvc. Drill holes in rocks. Zip tie rocks to frame.

Once you have partial rockwork on the frame, you can just fill in the gaps with rubble and coral. Great way to get a lot of volume filled in with minimal rock.
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:10 PM
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Wow, PVC frames, Zip ties, drill bits!

Seems a bit unatural Albert, Whatever happend to spending hours if not days trying to jigsaw puzzle your rockwork together? And then selling off all of the frags you've created in the process! Oh ya, that'll be me this weekend.
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There is definately merit to jisawing your rockwork together, but there are also some sweet looking formations you cannot create without a little help to defy gravity.
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:28 PM
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Wow, PVC frames, Zip ties, drill bits!

Seems a bit unatural Albert, Whatever happend to spending hours if not days trying to jigsaw puzzle your rockwork together? And then selling off all of the frags you've created in the process! Oh ya, that'll be me this weekend.

Hahah, I've gotten pretty good with rockscaping either way. I just find the end result, when using PVC frames, to be a lot more dramatic when done properly.
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Hahah, I've gotten pretty good with rockscaping either way. I just find the end result, when using PVC frames, to be a lot more dramatic when done properly.
I have been looking online for something about setting up and using these frames and I can't find anything

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Old 07-26-2006, 05:54 PM
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Its pretty basic.

Buy a length of 1/2" PVC, they are usually 8 feet long. Also buy some 90's and 45's, and if they have some 3-ways that will be helpfull too.

Now you have to decide what you want your final aquascaping to look like, then you build the framd out of the above mentioned pieces. You probably dont even have to glue the PVC if you dont want to.

As you are building the frame, you need to attache your rockwork one of two ways.

1. Drill through the rock so that the PVC can pass through the rock
2. Zip-tie the rock to the PVC.

You will probably use both methods.

As I mentioned earlier you can also get pieces of rock to "stick" together by drilling a few inches into each piece, and using a single pieces of PVC to connect them.
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There is some info here

http://wetwebmedia.com/lrplacingfaqs.htm

and here

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/lrplacingfaq2.htm

THis is a good one, he mentions hammering stuff together instead of glueing

http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_..._2.asp?CartId=
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:25 AM
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Hi This is Glenns wife, I think you need to encourage him to take me out to dinner more often Thank you (Albert and all the others) for all the help and advice you have given Glenn! I really apreciate it as we are a bit of "impulsive" buyers and am glad that someone will tell him NO you don't want that that!!
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