Need help with sump/fuge

TheReefGeek · #1 04-24-2006, 10:51 PM

Yep, it absolutely is, never said anything different. But I find that you then need two auto-top offs. One to control your RODI to a reservoire, then one from your reservoire to your sump/display.

TheReefGeek · #2 04-24-2006, 10:54 PM

Anyhow, shouldn't be filling this thread with an auto-top off discussion.

Willow · #3 04-24-2006, 10:57 PM

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Yep, it absolutely is, never said anything different.

yeah actually you did.

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And that is not an auto top off unless you run the RODI into your tank not a garbage can.

also how did you get a flood with an abs float valve im curious?

mr_alberta · #4 04-24-2006, 11:42 PM

A float valve from a humidifier to your R/O unit should suffice. As a failsafe, you can use a float switch hooked up to a solenoid that cuts off the water supply to your R/O unit if the water level in your sump gets too high in conjunction with the float valve. If you are really worried, you can set up a couple of switches in case 1 should fail (if everything fails, you're just unlucky!

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TheReefGeek · #5 04-25-2006, 12:05 AM

Sorry Ruth, apparantly they want to continue this discussion here.

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yeah actually you did.

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And that is not an auto top off unless you run the RODI into your tank not a garbage can.

I said that an RODI supplying a garbage can is not an auto top off. And its not!!!!!!! You have to then run your garbage can water into your tank for it to be an auto top off!!!!!!!! Without involving the display tank or sump you won't convince me it is an auto top off system! It is just a reservoire filling system that will produce waste water 24hrs a day from your RODI unit!!!!!!

So with just a float valve, how do you shut off waste water production from your RODI if you dont use any other valves, just a single abs float?

I have had the pleasure of flooding multiple ways, with the exception of my current setup. I have had float valves fail in multiple ways (stick open, and just plain leak), I have had the hyraulic plumbed into the RODI fail, and I have had float switches fail even with 4, yes 4 redundant float switches, set with 2 series and 2 in parallel for "ultimate" protection. And before I used a time, I have forgot to unplug my RODI when filling a reservoire, and filled the reservoire then my floor.

So for simplicity sake, when wanting to control an RODI directly to your sump, I have found a sprinkler solenoid and a timer set to replace approximate evaporation rate to be the "best".

If there is a better, safer way to setup a completely automated system I would love to learn it. After having multiple float switches burn out and fail in the on position, I just dont trust them anymore. Now if my timer starts to fail im screwed, I dont know what else to do!

Ruth · #6 04-25-2006, 12:14 AM

Hey you guys I can end this really quickly because........it's my thread

I don't have an RODI unit and won't any time soon. Reason is not enough room in my house to be able to have the equipment I would need to bring my well water down to a useable TDS (1500 - 2000ppm TDS) so I will be running auto top off out of a garbage can or other vessel. This way you can also control the amount of water that is in your vessel and should not have a flood although you can burn up a pump
I don't need a chamber for the protein skimmer as I will be running a BK 500ext. on it. I want to have a refugium, a place to house my return pump, heaters, zeovit reactor (if I decide to use zeo on this tank) and misc. other pieces of equipment that I might aquire.

TheReefGeek · #7 04-25-2006, 12:25 AM

So do you bring in jugs of distilled then for water change a top off water?

Ruth · #8 04-25-2006, 12:34 AM

Rory, I currently have a 230g, 190g, 44g, 24g and 12g tanks and I buy and pack all RODI water from a water store in town that I have worked with quite a bit and trust the way they treat their water. I do a minimum of 15% bi weekly water changes on all of them. It's a lot of work I guess but honestly I don't mind. Packing all that water has definately helped out my muscle tone!

Jason McK · #9 04-25-2006, 12:51 AM

Ruth,
Jack and I built a sump a couple of years ago. It was quite easy. I simply had an acrylic shop cut the pieces to the sizes I wanted and used Weldon 40 to glue it all together. I used silicone to add baffles.
It might be a challenge to find a shop around you but I'm sure shipping of pieces of Acrylic would be cheaper than a completed tank.

If your interested I could pick up and mail pieces to you?

Or you could talk to Wendell

J

Matt · #10 04-25-2006, 01:25 AM

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Rory, I currently have a 230g, 190g, 44g, 24g and 12g tanks and I buy and pack all RODI water from a water store in town that I have worked with quite a bit and trust the way they treat their water. I do a minimum of 15% bi weekly water changes on all of them. It's a lot of work I guess but honestly I don't mind. Packing all that water has definately helped out my muscle tone!

500 gallons x 15% biweekly = 75 gallons every two weeks. That's 15 jugs of water, or 7/week. Now THAT'S a commitment (and an exercise program).

I stand in awe, and will NEVER AGAIN whine about having to carry my water up and down one flight of stairs.