Goniopora

[Samw]

Originally Posted by BMW Rider

They are in fact in the same family and are thus very similar corals, in fact, alveopora are often mis-identified as goniopora. According to Borneman in Aquarium Corals, both alveopra and goniopora have very similar needs and requirements. Both are considered as difficult to keep and likely not to survive. However, there are many who are recently having greater success with both of these corals. There is still no cetainty for long term survival of either in captivity.

My point was that I don't know why they are considered as difficult to keep as Goniopora because I seldomly read about people's Alveoporas dying on forums. I have read on forums that Alveopora are easier than Goniopora. My impression had been that people are keeping them alive fine. Even you have had yours for a year so far and yours is doing well (Good to hear). Yes, books and websites clump them together as difficult to keep but they also say anemones are difficult to keep and that most anemones die and to keep them in the ocean. I'm just not totally convinced that the 2 corals should have their requirements and survival rates grouped together just because they look the same and are from the same family. My feeling from reading and from experience is that goniopora needs to be target fed but alveopora doesn't.

http://www.cnidarianreef.com/coral.cfm?AID=Alveopora
http://www.reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopi...ight=alveopora

[BMW Rider]

Originally Posted by Samw

My point was that I don't know why they are considered as difficult to keep as Goniopora because I seldomly read about people's Alveoporas dying on forums. I have read on forums that Alveopora are easier than Goniopora. My impression had been that people are keeping them alive fine. Even you have had yours for a year so far and yours is doing well (Good to hear). Yes, books and websites clump them together as difficult to keep but they also say anemones are difficult to keep and that most anemones die and to keep them in the ocean. I'm just not totally convinced that the 2 corals should have their requirements and survival rates grouped together just because they look the same and are from the same family. My feeling from reading and from experience is that goniopora needs to be target fed but alveopora doesn't.

You may very well be correct on that. I'm just basing it on what I've read in books and on forums as well. As with many things in this hobby, much of the information becomes quickly dated. There is just so much advancement taking place.

Knowing what I know now, I would not look to purchase another at this time, nor would I reccomend one to a novice. I did get mine from another reefer also, so it may also be a hardier variety than some of the wild collected ones.

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Yes, I don't think Sam or anyone else recommends them to the new or casual reefer. However, with those links provided, there is some useful new info about how to take care of them with some hope of success if you already have one.

Anthony

[naesco]

Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic

Yes, I don't think Sam or anyone else recommends them to the new or casual reefer. However, with those links provided, there is some useful new info about how to take care of them with some hope of success if you already have one.

Anthony

Casual? New? I don't think so.

Goniopora: There have been no advancements. There are several experts and scientists who feel that they may be successful in the near future of finding out just what is required to keep this coral alive.
Please see: http://www.marinedepot.com/FORUMS/To...ight=goniopora

That is a far cry from saying only newbies and casual reefers should stay away from them.

These are living creatures and best kept in the ocean until their feeding and care requirements are ascertained and we as reefers have that knowledge and possess the necessary equipment and feeding to keep them alive

[Samw]

I did not recommend Goniopora to a new or casual reefer. Therefore, what Anthony said is true.

In addition, I did not say nor imply that "Only newbies and casual reefers should stay away from them". Therefore what you've inferred I said is incorrect.

Please don't try to start an argument where none exists. Thanks.

Originally Posted by naesco

Casual? New? I don't think so.

That is a far cry from saying only newbies and casual reefers should stay away from them.

[Montana]

thanks for the links they gave me some hope. I decided to give it a try and see if i can have some luck. The thing that gets me is the mis information i had recieved at the store. If i had known the survival rate i wouldnt have bought it. But it is too late because of my own neglegance in information on the species of coral, so i am thankfull in sites like this so i can get more information and hopefully keep it alive. so far things are looking good exept my clowns are hosting in it.

[BMW Rider]

This is one of the lessons that we all must learn. Do your own research on what you are buying and don't take the word of the LFS for the truth. I like to go in armed with my reference books now. I leave them in the truck, but if I see something I like that I'm unfamiliar with, I can go look it up.