Goniopora

naesco · #1 04-01-2006, 06:14 PM

Return it immediately to the LFS for a full credit.
It is better that it dies in their tank than in yours. Than, maybe they will quit bringing them in until experts can accommodate their needs.

fortheloveofcrabs · #2 04-01-2006, 08:08 PM

The same thing happened to me with an alveopora. They wouldn't let me take it back. That's right, I called LATER THE SAME DAY I BOUGHT THE CORAL and they said too bad so sad. I don't think LFS's realize how bad this is for business. I will NEVER trust anyone at AI again.

Keana · #3 04-01-2006, 08:25 PM

I knew when I got mine that it was in bad shape. So, I'm taking a bigger risk than I thought but still it was a risk. When I got it I wasn't told, if they knew, that they "always die". I was told it might do better in a good lighting spot. I am still hopping that it will go alright?? My tank is a nutrient dense tank and I do water changes all the time. I run my skimmer & carbon for 18 hours a day, AquaClear 500 with cheato running all the time, but just started & going very well. Before that I had a EcoSystem I got cheep so it was cool. I feed on a daily basis and shave 3 cleaner shrimps in my 27gal so as to always have a couple with babies. The links that were posted here seem very helpful. I haven't read them fully yet but mostly. Thanks for those....

BMW Rider · #4 04-02-2006, 04:39 AM

I have an alveopora that I got abouta year ago. Its doing fine with no special care. It extends its polyps fully all the time, and has increased in size since I got it. Maybe I've just been lucky so far, but don't give up too easily. I don't feed anything in particular for it, but I believe that it must get residual nutrients from feeding the fish.

Samw · #5 04-02-2006, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW Rider

I have an alveopora that I got abouta year ago. Its doing fine with no special care. It extends its polyps fully all the time, and has increased in size since I got it. Maybe I've just been lucky so far, but don't give up too easily. I don't feed anything in particular for it, but I believe that it must get residual nutrients from feeding the fish.

I have an alveopora as well and my feeling on it is that it is not a difficult coral. It doesn't require target feeding and has been growing well. I've split my colony into 3 pieces with 1 in my main tank under halides and the other 2 in my nano under 18w of light. I'm not really sure why goniopora and alveopora are clumped together sometimes.

Samw · #6 04-02-2006, 07:52 AM

A few more interesting links

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...ight=goniopora

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...ight=goniopora

SeaHorse_Fanatic · #7 04-02-2006, 10:16 AM

Sam,

Thanks for those links. Its great to read about real world experiences & people having success with difficult to keep species.

Anthony

BMW Rider · #8 04-02-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Samw

I have an alveopora as well and my feeling on it is that it is not a difficult coral. It doesn't require target feeding and has been growing well. I've split my colony into 3 pieces with 1 in my main tank under halides and the other 2 in my nano under 18w of light. I'm not really sure why goniopora and alveopora are clumped together sometimes.

They are in fact in the same family and are thus very similar corals, in fact, alveopora are often mis-identified as goniopora. According to Borneman in Aquarium Corals, both alveopra and goniopora have very similar needs and requirements. Both are considered as difficult to keep and likely not to survive. However, there are many who are recently having greater success with both of these corals. There is still no cetainty for long term survival of either in captivity.

Samw · #9 04-02-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW Rider

They are in fact in the same family and are thus very similar corals, in fact, alveopora are often mis-identified as goniopora. According to Borneman in Aquarium Corals, both alveopra and goniopora have very similar needs and requirements. Both are considered as difficult to keep and likely not to survive. However, there are many who are recently having greater success with both of these corals. There is still no cetainty for long term survival of either in captivity.

My point was that I don't know why they are considered as difficult to keep as Goniopora because I seldomly read about people's Alveoporas dying on forums. I have read on forums that Alveopora are easier than Goniopora. My impression had been that people are keeping them alive fine. Even you have had yours for a year so far and yours is doing well (Good to hear). Yes, books and websites clump them together as difficult to keep but they also say anemones are difficult to keep and that most anemones die and to keep them in the ocean. I'm just not totally convinced that the 2 corals should have their requirements and survival rates grouped together just because they look the same and are from the same family. My feeling from reading and from experience is that goniopora needs to be target fed but alveopora doesn't.

http://www.cnidarianreef.com/coral.cfm?AID=Alveopora
http://www.reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopi...ight=alveopora