RC Exodus of Experts

[digital-audiophile]

I've tried using RC before and have found it very large and daunting. The only time I can get the search function to work is late at night??

That's ok though.. I've find so much usefull information here at canreef (not to mention that everyone here is always nice and helpful unlike some other forums) and at nano-reef.com that I get just about all I need!


Greg

[muck]

Dr. Ron's Blogspot

http://drrons.blogspot.com/

[christyf5]

I love a good soap opera

[dirtyreefer]

I saw the whole thing develop. There was the usual DSB vs. BB debate and the big BB advocator (Bomber) posted some pictures of his tank which had some allegedly illegal carribbean corals in his tank. Eric Borneman (another coral "expert") posted in the same thread accusing him of obtaining these illegal corals, as well as calling him a fraud (basically posting false credentials about his so called "Doctorate in Marine Biology/Pathology).

I think this sparked a huge lawsuit, and I know Dr Ron and Bomber don't get along so I think some of the experts banded together and basically quit moderating the forum.

[muck]

I wanna see this pic now..

[AndyL]

Personally I hate to see it happen. Yes RC has grown to ungodly proportions, and has its own troubles. But at the same time the knowledgebase and expertise available there can't be rivaled.

Personally I think we need to look at what's happened there; the actions of persons involved and how to prevent similar situations from happening here. No we don't currently have "renowned experts" but I do see some of the same attitudes that caused the 'meltdown' even here on canreef.

A lot of the problem goes straight to the medium, things are said assumptions made in this virtual world - that would rarely happen if we were face to face.

I see some of the "lobbying" (and baiting by some of these lobbyests) that caused this meltdown even here. We all need to realize, that while there are new (and some promising) methods to keep a reef out there. But we don't need the lobbying that we've seen on RC in regards to BB instead of DSB/SSB, cooking rocks etc. This hobby is rather new and is still largely developing - this whole lobbying / "my way is the only way to keep a tank", shouldn't be tolerated by members or staff. Yes, anyone should be allowed to voice their opinion as to what works for them, but the "Your DSB will kill your tank" "You've got to cook your rocks or you will have phosphate problems" needs to end.

My .02

Andy

[christyf5]

Originally Posted by AndyL

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No we don't currently have "renowned experts" but I do see some of the same attitudes that caused the 'meltdown' even here on canreef.

I see some of the "lobbying" (and baiting by some of these lobbyests) that caused this meltdown even here. We all need to realize, that while there are new (and some promising) methods to keep a reef out there. But we don't need the lobbying that we've seen on RC in regards to BB instead of DSB/SSB, cooking rocks etc. This hobby is rather new and is still largely developing - this whole lobbying / "my way is the only way to keep a tank", shouldn't be tolerated by members or staff. Yes, anyone should be allowed to voice their opinion as to what works for them, but the "Your DSB will kill your tank" "You've got to cook your rocks or you will have phosphate problems" needs to end.

My .02

Andy

Am I missing something here? When did we have a meltdown here on Canreef??

You know, everyone has their own opinions on how things should be done for every topic. I really think its a reefers responsibility to do research and garner their own information to make their own way in the hobby. However, I don't think that we need to "lay the smack down" on any members that feel "their way or the highway". Everyone has their own things that worked for them and may not work for others, just because people have stronger personalities and may not word it in a "politically correct" way doesn't mean we need to get rid of them.

Christy

[dirtyreefer]

Agreed, people there took it to another level. I mean when it all comes down it it, it's just a fish tank!

But DSB/BB is like a religion, and people take things quite personally for some stupid reason.

[Delphinus]

I'm not sure to which specific instances you refer to, Andy? For the most part I thought we had a rather diverse experience base here on Canreef, and people are free to post their experiences. If those posts share an opposing view to an already posted about opinion, then so be it, and let the discussion ensue. It is only through the sharing of differing opinions that we may occasionally be presented with a new perspective. When the discussion gets heated and/or personal, then maybe an intervention may happen but until then it's an open discussion.

I'm not sure how we are to not "tolerate" certain opinions, and yet still retain the goal of keeping an open forum for discussion.

[RobbAdams]

Never been a big RC supporter my self.

I was pretty much riddiculed when I started in the hobby, for doing a 28 gallon tank.

Love Canreef, and spend some time on nano-reef

Robb