RC Exodus of Experts

BMW Rider · #1 01-04-2006, 03:33 PM

I hardly follow any of the forums on RC anymore, the volume of posts is too overwhelming to try to wade through. I have not been able to access the the search function for over a month now, and without the search function, the site is virtually useless. I can't be bothered to spend the time trying to do a manual hunt for some info there.

I think maybe RC has outgrown its usefulness.

Samw · #2 01-04-2006, 03:37 PM

Hm, I can't access that thread now. They must have locked it for review.

Delphinus · #3 01-04-2006, 03:43 PM

The RC mods are not tolerating a lot of discussion regarding this incident, and I have noticed a lot of censorship while trying to follow these developments with mild interest.

I'm afraid I have to agree with BMW Rider, although I would say the same thing but without the word "virtually". Without a search function and without any indexability into the knowledge base that exists there, any useful info remains locked up inaccessible.

From what I understand, I would not count on the experts returning. I applaud their integrity and solidarity. Hopefully their talents will not be at a loss to the online reefing community, we'll just have to hope we'll find them somewhere else eventually.

digital-audiophile · #4 01-04-2006, 03:45 PM

I've tried using RC before and have found it very large and daunting. The only time I can get the search function to work is late at night??

That's ok though.. I've find so much usefull information here at canreef (not to mention that everyone here is always nice and helpful unlike some other forums) and at nano-reef.com that I get just about all I need!

Greg

muck · #5 01-04-2006, 03:48 PM

Dr. Ron's Blogspot

http://drrons.blogspot.com/

christyf5 · #6 01-04-2006, 04:39 PM

I love a good soap opera

dirtyreefer · #7 01-04-2006, 05:13 PM

I saw the whole thing develop. There was the usual DSB vs. BB debate and the big BB advocator (Bomber) posted some pictures of his tank which had some allegedly illegal carribbean corals in his tank. Eric Borneman (another coral "expert") posted in the same thread accusing him of obtaining these illegal corals, as well as calling him a fraud (basically posting false credentials about his so called "Doctorate in Marine Biology/Pathology).

I think this sparked a huge lawsuit, and I know Dr Ron and Bomber don't get along so I think some of the experts banded together and basically quit moderating the forum.

muck · #8 01-04-2006, 05:15 PM

I wanna see this pic now..

AndyL · #9 01-04-2006, 05:25 PM

Personally I hate to see it happen. Yes RC has grown to ungodly proportions, and has its own troubles. But at the same time the knowledgebase and expertise available there can't be rivaled.

Personally I think we need to look at what's happened there; the actions of persons involved and how to prevent similar situations from happening here. No we don't currently have "renowned experts" but I do see some of the same attitudes that caused the 'meltdown' even here on canreef.

A lot of the problem goes straight to the medium, things are said assumptions made in this virtual world - that would rarely happen if we were face to face.

I see some of the "lobbying" (and baiting by some of these lobbyests) that caused this meltdown even here. We all need to realize, that while there are new (and some promising) methods to keep a reef out there. But we don't need the lobbying that we've seen on RC in regards to BB instead of DSB/SSB, cooking rocks etc. This hobby is rather new and is still largely developing - this whole lobbying / "my way is the only way to keep a tank", shouldn't be tolerated by members or staff. Yes, anyone should be allowed to voice their opinion as to what works for them, but the "Your DSB will kill your tank" "You've got to cook your rocks or you will have phosphate problems" needs to end.

My .02

Andy

christyf5 · #10 01-04-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyL

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No we don't currently have "renowned experts" but I do see some of the same attitudes that caused the 'meltdown' even here on canreef.

I see some of the "lobbying" (and baiting by some of these lobbyests) that caused this meltdown even here. We all need to realize, that while there are new (and some promising) methods to keep a reef out there. But we don't need the lobbying that we've seen on RC in regards to BB instead of DSB/SSB, cooking rocks etc. This hobby is rather new and is still largely developing - this whole lobbying / "my way is the only way to keep a tank", shouldn't be tolerated by members or staff. Yes, anyone should be allowed to voice their opinion as to what works for them, but the "Your DSB will kill your tank" "You've got to cook your rocks or you will have phosphate problems" needs to end.

My .02

Andy

Am I missing something here? When did we have a meltdown here on Canreef??

You know, everyone has their own opinions on how things should be done for every topic. I really think its a reefers responsibility to do research and garner their own information to make their own way in the hobby. However, I don't think that we need to "lay the smack down" on any members that feel "their way or the highway". Everyone has their own things that worked for them and may not work for others, just because people have stronger personalities and may not word it in a "politically correct" way doesn't mean we need to get rid of them.

Christy