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Old 11-24-2005, 07:46 PM
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Ok, so apparently Western Pump does NOT sell RVT100. Man, nothing like being told one thing over the phone only to get a blank stare when you make the time to go there in person and then ask for it. .. sheesh.

Anyhow rather than drive all over the place on a wild goose chase for some elusive alleged GE product, I bought some All-Glass-Aquarium silicone from Big Al's, so I'm set for now.

But if anyone ever does find the RVT100 in some mythical store, please post back here and let me know where it be so I might know for some future project. .. Many thanks!
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Just as a followup post in case anyone ever references this thread in the future.

The clear silicone that I used to repair my sump with (that begat this whole thread in the first place), was "All Glass Aquarium" brand.

It yellowed within a week (below the water line). In my case, it's a sump, so aesthetics aren't all THAT important, but I was still quite disappointed with that. I've now done two sumps with two different silicones, Silicone I (clear) and All-Glass-Aquarium (clear), and in both cases have had yellowing of the silicone below the water line. You do not want to use these products for anything that will end up being a display where looks are important. My advice is, go the extra distance and find the GE1200, GE RVT100 or GE IS800 silicones.
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Tony,
Wai's makes custom tanks (he made mine) and can probably get you some or at least steer you in the right direction.
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Wai's doesn't build tanks - danny buys them from mitch like everyone else in town.

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Wai's doesn't build tanks - danny buys them from mitch like everyone else in town.

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Ok if you say so. Either way I would be surprized if Danny didn't know where to get the silicone in question.
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Hi Delphinus,
I can offer you CSL #502A food grade, excellent for glass and I can promise you this never get yellow in marine condition, two years in my sump nothing happen.
Technical data Sheet: http://www.cslsilicones.com/pdf_files/502tech.pdf
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Old 01-27-2006, 02:22 PM
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I have a supplier to the CSL stuff as well and have made a few cube tanks with that stuff. Newguy has also made tanks with that stuff. I can get them for about $5 a tube. I have other stuff that is straight 100% silicone that I use as well that does not yellow. I have been on the silicone searchfor a while as I use it daily in my trade and have tracked down a couple of suppliers. If anyone is interested I can get them some cheap. About $5. My company can probably cover the tax.

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Can any of those adhesive suppliers get GE RVT100? After reading the specs for the CSL in that above link, it sort of looks like it may be an equivalent product but nowhere in that link did I see "safe for aquariums" whereas it does state this in the specifications for the GE RVT100. I used to be able to get my tubes from Animal House before they went belly-up a few years ago but since then I haven't seen any around (not that I really look all that hard). It just seems to me that someone must be able to order it, seeing as GE makes a lot of silicone products and GE is a .. kinda a big company..

I'm not in need of any right now though, I'm asking only more for the future. Thanks for the offers nonetheless though.
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You can use them, yes, but Silicone II actually has on the label "not for aquarium use." The problem with Silicone II apparently is that it will not hold up to long-term continuous submerged use so it is not a good choice as a structural bonding agent.



Not true actually. I have called GE and they say the only reason they have it as not for aquarium use is that it is desgined for usages partially where food and beveridge would be consumed and so the usage would conflict with the warning of being toxic. (kitchen) This is the silicone that they suggest to me when I called and I have used it lots. It is an FDA regualtions thing more than anything
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