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Old 11-18-2005, 01:05 AM
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If you mix IO with RO/DI water you end up with about 330 ppm calcium, depending on the specific gravity of the water, and a lower alkalinity.
I've found that too -- I'm not getting a good reading with IO and ro/di..very low in Ca and Alk.
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:12 AM
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Red Sea because the price was right. When that is gone I will use Kent because I have a pail of it.
I use Red Sea as well. Price was great on boxing day
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If you mix IO with RO/DI water you end up with about 330 ppm calcium, depending on the specific gravity of the water, and a lower alkalinity.
I've found that too -- I'm not getting a good reading with IO and ro/di..very low in Ca and Alk.
Ditto! - Now I mix my RO/DI with Kent Osmoprep then with Kent Salt and I get 420 ppm Ca+ and 11 dKH... IO was 360 and 7 ... and 330 and about 5 with straight RO/DI...
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Old 11-18-2005, 02:47 PM
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Why don't we get a few more comparisons, I'm finding this interesting. I'm going to do a water change this weekend with reef crystal in RODI water. I'll measure and report my CA and ALK readings as well.
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Not entirely true. IO is formulated to mix with an "average" amount of minerals in water (i.e. tap water). Kent and others are formulated to mix with RO/DI water.

If you mix IO with RO/DI water you end up with about 330 ppm calcium, depending on the specific gravity of the water, and a lower alkalinity.
Sources? The Aquarium Systems website suggests that it is Reef Crystals that is formulated for tapwater use. The infamous S-15 Report (which uses apparently valid analysis for the mixes, although the scoring system that the sponsor uses to determine what's "best" is completely subjective and self-serving), shows that IO, Kent and RC are all substantially similar, nothwithstanding the marketing data.
My sources are personal experience using salifert test kits. Anthony Calfo also mentioned it in a water change thread on reef central a while. As well it appears that others on the board have noticed this.
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Old 11-18-2005, 02:53 PM
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If you mix IO with RO/DI water you end up with about 330 ppm calcium, depending on the specific gravity of the water, and a lower alkalinity.
I've found that too -- I'm not getting a good reading with IO and ro/di..very low in Ca and Alk.
Ditto! - Now I mix my RO/DI with Kent Osmoprep then with Kent Salt and I get 420 ppm Ca+ and 11 dKH... IO was 360 and 7 ... and 330 and about 5 with straight RO/DI...
Hey how much osmoprep do you use with the kent mix? I have a container of the stuff sitting around, maybe I should use it up.
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I used to use IO as well and switched to Kent for the same reasons (ca and alk were low) better now with Kent.
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I am using IO and I am switching to Kent today (well picking up a pail)

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I used to use IO as well and switched to Kent for the same reasons (ca and alk were low) better now with Kent.
Same here
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I used to use IO as well and switched to Kent for the same reasons (ca and alk were low) better now with Kent.
I haven't found IO so low the levels can't be easily raised with additives, I don't like keeping my ca and alk too high because of mineral build up in powerheads. I keep my calcium around 380 and my alk at 9 dkh and the corals don't seem to suffer
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