Biodiversity in Canada

[ataller]

I respectfully disagree that everything you need is in the air.

Everything you need for the simple nitrogen cycle may be in the air, but the environment we are trying to mimic is much more complicated than that.

The nitrogen cycle is the easy part.

[Ryan]

I recently purchased raw live rock from Badlands Marine for this reason exactly. Dry rock flat out socks. Look at people having success like WWC may use dry rock but they openly admit to using live rock from other systems that are years or a decade old. Same thing as LR.

A dry rock tank can take a year or more to finally be stable and take lot of products. IMO its the reason tanks are so unbalanced these days.

[Dresden]

I am doing a similar thing with not bringing over rock from my previous tank and starting with all dry rock.

I used Ocean Direct sand and which helped a ton, some of my previous tank's sand to get it started. I cycled most of the rocks for 2 months and used MB7.

I added a few late dry rocks which has a lot more algae than the cycled rocks. Diatoms has appeared recently (I don't think its dinos but maybe) and it looks like I'm getting it under control.

[ataller]

We have pretty good sources of bacteria, I will concede. Better than I had the last time I was at this stage.

Our tanks are lacking worms, feather dusters, star fish, pods, serpents, sponges, tunicates, macro algae’s, snails, barnacles and so many other cryptic organisms that I think really make the best of the best tanks.

A couple cups of junk from the bottom of the ocean, or cultured in someone’s tank would bring some much needed richness and stability.

[WarDog]

Perhaps I don't understand your original inquiry.

Originally Posted by ataller

Our tanks are lacking worms, feather dusters, star fish, pods, serpents, sponges, tunicates, macro algae’s, snails, barnacles and so many other cryptic organisms that I think really make the best of the best tanks.

Not sure about your area, but all of these are available at my LFS.

[ataller]

I’m not taking about ornamental species. I am talking about the cryptic species that go about their business without us every knowing about it.

[Madreefer]

Originally Posted by ataller

A couple cups of junk from the bottom of the ocean, or cultured in someone’s tank would bring some much needed richness and stability.

And there's your answer

[ataller]

You guys are really saucy....

Clearly I don't have access to the ocean or someone else's established tank which is why in my original post I was looking for a commercial solution.

I don't think I am going to find any help here.

[darb]

I am currently in the building stage for live rock for my next tank.

Step one involves flushing Marco Rock for many months in FW to minimize phosphates.

Step two will be initial going live which will be a combination of bacteria in a bottle and a starter rock pack based on a small amount of old school live rock from the LFS.

For my final step I was planning on ordering some farmed live rock from Florida, QT it for many months and then finally add it to my main.

I will dig later but I think that one of the farmed rock suppliers was willing to airship to Canada. Just guessing obviously, but hopefully at some point soonish the border will open again, so shipping to just across the border will be an option again.