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Old 03-28-2014, 04:53 PM
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Well, this should put that LED "can't grow SPS" debate to rest.

Can't wait to check this out in person.
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Old 03-28-2014, 05:02 PM
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We also gave up on the GHL Mitras for our SPS system. Just not enough PAR to keep them well colored.

Currently swapping them out for 400w 20k Radium MH.
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We also gave up on the GHL Mitras for our SPS system. Just not enough PAR to keep them well colored.

Currently swapping them out for 400w 20k Radium MH.
yeah im having a hell of a time finding a color that i like that the corals like as well , i have something down now and the corals seem to be loving the spectrum but i personally hate the color.

my sps issue was more of poor reefer practise and we wanted an instant sps tank so dipping got skipped, i knew better but it is what it is . first came the nudis for montipora then ended in a AEFW bout.

as far as leds go period theres none that i really like , seems if you play with the colors to something that is visually appealing the corals suffer.

i had to drop the mitras down another 4" but seems to bleach lps easily enough , my chalices arnt happy at all but everything else has finally come around


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We also gave up on the GHL Mitras for our SPS system. Just not enough PAR to keep them well colored.

Currently swapping them out for 400w 20k Radium MH.
400w Radium give off a lot less PAR then the GHL Mitras I dont think it can be done. where you lamps on 100%
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Xenon, this would be an absolute first, your systems are very new on the scheme of things I highly doubt in 12" water you have PAR issues when tanks 3 times that depth are turning their lamps down due to burning corals.

Even a commercial system

Mitras system in 30" of water

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Xenon, this would be an absolute first, your systems are very new on the scheme of things I highly doubt in 12" water you have PAR issues when tanks 3 times that depth are turning their lamps down due to burning corals.

Even a commercial system

Mitras system in 30" of water

I can show you proof of my PAR readings if you would like. Acro's need more than 150-200 PAR to color up.

I would rather keep the Mitras than swap them out for older technology but they just don't work to color up SPS due to low PAR (too much light spread).

I have spent enough time with them to know for sure.
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400w Radium give off a lot less PAR then the GHL Mitras I dont think it can be done. where you lamps on 100%
I can assure you the brightness of a 400w Radium completely blows away the GHL Mitras with all color channels @ 100%.
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I can assure you the brightness of a 400w Radium completely blows away the GHL Mitras with all color channels @ 100%.
Hiya Dan, I really am confused, not one person globally has ever said the PAR is too low in fact the opposite, here are some independent tests



I think user SPS photos say a lot also.



http://test.reefcentral.com/forums/s...219645&page=30

I really have no idea why your PAR meter would read so low to be honest, but good luck with the Radiums 400's hope they work out for you.
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OH EM GEE guys! Are we really going to do this again?? LOL
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Here is a quick video on Par levels for 250w 400w and Led. perhaps the position of the sensor was not placed properly but if you view other videos the same results come up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVCUr...t=HL1396478548

From coral and reef 2014 "Riddle (2007) refers to a most interesting experiment with staghorn corals Arcopora austera that was exposed to different light intensities. In values 100 to 350 PAR (umol/m/sec) the corals turned brown from about 350 to 800 PAR the corals turned bright mauve. When the UV- protective filter of the metal halide Lamp was removed at 300 PAR the coral shifted from brown to bright green.

You will need a lot of halides Xenon

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