AEFW Warning for Lower Mainland area!!!

[mikepclo]

I read a review on reef central that it did not kill AEFW eggs.

Originally Posted by Zoaelite

I didn't think any dip currently on the market killed the eggs of this species?

[Tn23]

I think mike is just simply trying to give everyone a heads up and warn some of the newer members which may not have as much experience. I am sure no one wants go and buy frags which contain AEFW, and if they did at least have the seller let the buyer know so they can be aware.

Thanks Mike, appreciate the warning

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Salty23

I think mike is just simply trying to give everyone a heads up and warn some of the newer members

Yes, which is why I left it up. But my point is that for every PSA, there will be 10 guys selling frags that are unknowingly infected. So I'm telling the new members that assume they're all bad. Because most probably are. I have to say, it's rare that I've bought a frag that didn't have something bad on it. 7 out of 10 do.

[tang daddy]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Yes, which is why I left it up. But my point is that for every PSA, there will be 10 guys selling frags that are unknowingly infected. So I'm telling the new members that assume they're all bad. Because most probably are. I have to say, it's rare that I've bought a frag that didn't have something bad on it. 7 out of 10 do.

Brad put it well, even if your friends grandma is selling you coral don't trust it.....

Dip everything and try to qt.

[Bblinks]

Originally Posted by tang daddy

Brad put it well, even if your friends grandma is selling you coral don't trust it.....

Dip everything and try to qt.

Amen to that. Dirty grandmas.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Bblinks

Amen to that. Dirty grandmas.

lol thats just wrong :P

[mikepclo]

RSP all out will take care of dirty grandmas as well.

Oh another warning!!
Wear eye protection when using RSP all out!

Originally Posted by Bblinks

Amen to that. Dirty grandmas.

[Bblinks]

Originally Posted by mikepclo

RSP all out will take care of dirty grandmas as well.

Oh another warning!!
Wear eye protection when using RSP all out!

should've mention that. all fun and games until you get rps'ed in the eye. lmao

Thanks for the awesome afternoon laugh.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Yes, which is why I left it up. But my point is that for every PSA, there will be 10 guys selling frags that are unknowingly infected. So I'm telling the new members that assume they're all bad. Because most probably are. I have to say, it's rare that I've bought a frag that didn't have something bad on it. 7 out of 10 do.

i agree with you brad i dip all new frags or corals that go into my tank , i never guarantee anyone my frags are pest free infact i tell people even though i dip and treat for many diff types of pests to redip themselves as a precaution and for good practise that ways both partys did the best they could.

one of the most common questions i get at the store is " should i dip my corals?" or " do i really need to dip my corals?" in which case the answer is absolutely yes , IME dips arnt enough and QT should be done but at the very least a dip, and now a days dips are not hard to find and theres plenty to choose from so no real reason not to dip and its user friendly and not something left for experienced reefers but for anyone to use ..

not dipping is as bad as not quarantining new fish , youll get lucky for a while but eventually if your in the hobby long enough you will be bit.

fact is if you buy corals you prob buy pests , so its on us to protect our own systems. i dont think i would ever take anyones word for it that their corals are pest free nor their tanks the only person i trust is moi and the only person i blame is moi

yes selling pests and not telling the buyer about it if you know yourself you have them is def bad and not good selling practise, i hope thats not the case though but i bet it happens more than enough.

[ScubaSteve]

If the guy is trying to sell afflicted frags knowingly, then a PSA is warranted. If it was unknowingly, there are more subtle and diplomatic ways of dealing with it. Threads like this are going to get everyone's hackles up and it will turn into the usual bitch-fest. My gut feeling from the sellers thread is that he was probably oblivious to the fact. I'm not part of this shmozzle, so I can't say for certain. You say he got turned down by JL because of it, who knows.

I've picked up red bugs twice from other reefers, one of them a good friend (until I learned to just dip the damn things). Both times I contacted them and politely said "hey, we've both got a problem here". Both times they were unaware, both times we helped each other source interceptor and treat the tanks. No hard feelings and I still keep in touch with them. That problem ended up building bridges and acquaintances.

If I came on here going "so-n-so's a sumuvabitch and selling dirty frags with red bugs", I wouldn't just be burning bridges, it'd be scorched earth. Everyone's gonna get all up in arms and at each others throats. So what did that achieve really?

I have sympathy for the OP because I've been there, it sucks. But at the same time, like Brad said, assume every frag - friend or foe - is carrying something nasty and its your responsibility to take precautions. Ultimately, the health of your tank is in your hands. That's why you're also not getting a ton of sympathy, not the fact that we support people selling "dirty frags".

PS. I'm not saying that dipping is a cure all. Inspect your frags as well! Look for eggs! I have a cheap magnifying glass specifically for this reason.

PPS. Not taking sides nor saying you're wrong. I sympathize and it sucks. Just saying that PSAs aren't necessarily going to get the response or result you're hoping for.