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Old 03-02-2012, 12:43 AM
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If you do a water change, are you not adding that element as well?

Here is the thing. I did it myself. I didn't read about it and follow others. There was a decision making process. I weighed the negatives. I tested the parameters and monitored it. I kept the bioload low, and dosed accordingly.
Really?? not sure I can explain any better, read the link dude, you'll learn something. Until then you're just wasting everyone's time.
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Really?? not sure I can explain any better, read the link dude, you'll learn something. Until then you're just wasting everyone's time.
I skimmed it. Don't use epsen salts? The "removal" section was a little short
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I skimmed it. Don't use epsen salts? The "removal" section was a little short
"I skimmed it. don't use epsen salts" lol classic.
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"I skimmed it. I don't use epsen salts" lol classic.
Well perhaps you can point me to the specific part of the huge article you want me to read. "I have a rebuttal, but read this novel to figure it out." This is like that law and order episode, when they subpoena some documents so the suspects place it inside 400 banker boxes filled with other documents and turn it all over. Here ya go, find it.
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Well perhaps you can point me to the specific part of the huge article you want me to read. "I have a rebuttal, but read this novel to figure it out." This is like that law and order episode, when they subpoena some documents so the suspects place it inside 400 banker boxes filled with other documents and turn it all over. Here ya go, find it.
It's for your own personal gain, not to support either side of the discussion. You obviously lack the basic concepts so it's a good read and it's smaller than this rather pointless thread.
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It's for your own personal gain, not to support either side of the discussion. You obviously lack the basic concepts so it's a good read and it's smaller than this rather pointless thread.
You essentially say "you are wrong" , then provide some article and then give no further direction. Appeal to tradition is a fallacy. Just because it is the way it is usually done, doesn't make it always right.

From what I gathered from that article, the things a water change depletes can be controlled, minimized and even kept out of the system all together....

Unless of course you can provide me with something...which you won't.

You also trivialize this thread (rather un-objectively) by saying it is pointless, but you can't even provide an adequate aregument aside from "everybody else does it".
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I guess I should ask how old your system is. It may have been previously stated but I forget by now.
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You essentially say "you are wrong" , then provide some article and then give no further direction. Appeal to tradition is a fallacy. Just because it is the way it is usually done, doesn't make it always right.

From what I gathered from that article, the things a water change depletes can be controlled, minimized and even kept out of the system all together....

Unless of course you can provide me with something...which you won't.

You also trivialize this thread (rather un-objectively) by saying it is pointless, but you can't even provide an adequate aregument aside from "everybody else does it".
Hmmm I don't recall saying you're wrong, you asked a question and I answered it. The link was just general info on the subject which I insisted you read after you failed to understand the concept of how removing & replacing water reduces contaminants. Just look at one of the last graphs for example, the one regarding sulphur build up. In addition to sulphur many other elements and contaminants will act the same. Without water changes what is your plan to deal with such contaminants?
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