Arc fault circuit interupter

[Nate]

Bazinga!

[troni]

Must of been years since you've been on tools huh? Cause your talking like a office guy. Nobody is going to get a permit to move a plug.

Yes its the canadian electrical code but its a suggested code. Every province has its own legislatio

[Lampshade]

It's still part of the code though, so when your insurance company is looking for ways to not pay you it will for sure come up. For the case of beer it'd cost to get someone to come help out might be worth it.

[Avrbuster]

Originally Posted by troni

Must of been years since you've been on tools huh? Cause your talking like a office guy.

Well he did get that one right, only it's a little worse!

I learnt 2 things a while ago, never argue with outacontrol on electrical issues, as he is seldom wrong. And he will be wiring my basement when I get ready to do it!

Avrbuster

[Magma]

Originally Posted by troni

Must of been years since you've been on tools huh? Cause your talking like a office guy. Nobody is going to get a permit to move a plug.

Yes its the canadian electrical code but its a suggested code. Every province has its own legislatio

I'm on the tools right now in fact I do office renos and to move a plug 6" to the left I need a permit and inspection. The same goes for residential.

The code is suggestive yes but its also a legal document.

FYI this is from city of Edmonton website.

Permit Requirements
All new electrical installations require a permit, such as:

New construction
Renovations/alterations
Basement developments
Hot tub installations
Garage wiring
Service upgrade
Any additions to an electrical system, adding new circuits/wiring for receptacles and/or lighting, repair/replacement of aluminum wiring and garden shed wiring to name a few.

http://www.edmonton.ca/bylaws_licenc...sidential.aspx

Not saying it doesn't happen from time to time but its a big slap to the bank account if you get caught without one.

[outacontrol]

Originally Posted by troni

Must of been years since you've been on tools huh? Cause your talking like a office guy. Nobody is going to get a permit to move a plug.

Yes its the canadian electrical code but its a suggested code. Every province has its own legislatio

Man you are just full great information, are you sitting on the toilet when you write these replies? Cause I think some of your information and advise should be wiped up with some toilet paper and flushed.

The decision to pull a permit is a decision that everyone should make on their own from an educated stand point, you should not be advising people in a public forum that permits are not required.

When did you get your ticket? Does your boss know that you think the Canadian Electrical Code is just a suggested code? The CEC is the mandated legislated code, no if ands or buts about it! Every province has its own legislation - you must be refering the Alberta Standata, which is a document that amends and provides interpretation of the CEC.
As an electrician you can be fined, lose your ticket and even go to jail for breaking the code.

Please think twice before continuing with your miss-informed, and miss-leading information.

[troni]

This is tough to do:
Yes you are correct that is the proper way to do it. Thank you. Its tough keeping the proper mindset with a company like the one I work for.

[Avrbuster]

Originally Posted by troni

This is tough to do:
Yes you are correct that is the proper way to do it. Thank you. Its tough keeping the proper mindset with a company like the one I work for.

I have to say, it's nice to see someone admit they made a mistake on the internet. That is extremely rare. My hat is off to you troni!

On a personal side note, I know it's hard to stand up when you have tons of pressure to cut a few corners and your Bose (or Bosses) tell you to do it. But I would encourage you to voice your concerns. I'm no expert, but I believe in a court of law you are just as culpable as the company and could be open to litigation at a personal level. Don't think for one minute the company is going to stand behind you if sh*t hits the fan!

[kole]

Ok Now that we all know the law anybody have anything else to add to the original topic lol.

[wingedfish]

I've cut the arc fault plugs off of at least a dozen appliances (window a/c's) do to nuisance tripping. These are CSA mandated on some things for some reason but are just annoying in the field. Cannot imagine why anyone would want one on their tank.

I personally wil not put a gfci on my tank either. To each their own.