Would you buy from an LFS that dodges questions?...****** Apology*******

[cwatkins]

Originally Posted by zoaElite

I was in agreement with you until I actually read the thread in question. In all honesty you are REALLY dragging someone through the mud for absolutely no reason. Now if you were debating about something that actually made sense such as bringing in mass amounts of cleaner gobies or flame prawns then of course you have merit to comment.

My two cents:

Why are we even allowed to remove the contents of our posts like this? I get so frustrated when I'm reading through threads and someone who has decided to change his/her option, or decides to leave Canreef, has gone through all 400+ posts he/she has ever made and put *removed*.

Also, the second someone has an issue with a Sponsor on Canreef but "doesn't want to name names", well anyone with half a mind can figure it out in 10 seconds by searching your post history...

I think from standing outside of the box here, this thread is unfair since the first initial thread has been tainted by editing out the one side of the story...

[The Grizz]

Originally Posted by cwatkins

My two cents:

Why are we even allowed to remove the contents of our posts like this? I get so frustrated when I'm reading through threads and someone who has decided to change his/her option, or decides to leave Canreef, has gone through all 400+ posts he/she has ever made and put *removed*.

Also, the second someone has an issue with a Sponsor on Canreef but "doesn't want to name names", well anyone with half a mind can figure it out in 10 seconds by searching your post history...

I think from standing outside of the box here, this thread is unfair since the first initial thread has been tainted by editing out the one side of the story...

Good points and I agree it is better to have all side of the story.

[globaldesigns]

Hey, if all the vendors leave, I will host canreef for FREE... So that argument has flown out the window. HEHE, just wanted to stir the pot a bit.

I like you GRIZZ make sure my customers are happy. Taking the time to talk with the customer afterwards really makes a difference.

[The Grizz]

Originally Posted by globaldesigns

Hey, if all the vendors leave, I will host canreef for FREE... So that argument has flown out the window. HEHE, just wanted to stir the pot a bit.

And you call me TROUBLE

[BlueWorldAquatic]

heh, some interesting reading.... Remember its Christmas time. We are ALL under a lot of stress customers and vendors alike.

Rule #1, in any business, the customer is always right.

Rule #2, you don't have to be my customer, and I have the right to refuse service.


In the year and half that I have run BWA, I think I have had 2 customers that I refused service to, one was someone that berated one of my younger employees, and a second was someone that was calling me a liar when I gave him a price on a RSM even Damon at Big AL's couldn't believe I gave him. Never saw the customer again, but you know what? I would have kicked him out if he showed up again.

As a customer, you have the right to shop anywhere you wish, as a vendor we have the right to refuse service. Do you notice signs everywhere now posted saying "abuse of employees will not be tolerated"?

Canreef is a great venue for information, also for venting. But inaccurate information, or censored posts don't show both sides of the issue accurately.

Patrick, forgive me if it is posted, but what was the question that got you so fired up?

Ken - BWA

[kien]

clearly you are talking about AquaValley and the discussion you had with them in this thread as you made reference to it..

Originally Posted by Ross

Depends what the question is...

Originally Posted by ponokareefer

Depends what the question is.

Originally Posted by paddyob

How about direct questions on mortality and the practice of removing animals that have a high mortality rate?

When a dealer gets defensive... to me that says "Please buy something as all I care about is money."

I'm just trying to put some of the missing pieces together From what I gathered on that other thread it did appear to me like the vendor's business was being attacked. Personally I think vendors have the right to dodge whatever questions they want. And yes, I frequently buy from vendors that have dodge some of my questions.

[globaldesigns]

Paddyob, as someone that posts here, I can tell you that I have had my fair share of bashing. And yes, sometimes it does hurt.

May I recommend something to you, in future don't delete your posts, as it doesn't support your cause either way. And in most cases, just gives others more ammunition to hit you with. Just remember, some may take what you say and value it, but MORE people will probably just take it and hurt you with it. It is just the nature of the BEAST. Just remember this and don't take it to heart, it happens.

In regards to the hobby, others have posted this, and even myself on other threads. Really, do any of us have the right to take from the wild and cage it up. So as Aquattro stated, we are all selfish. In my opinion, if someone wants to spend large amounts of cash for a rare fish. Then go for it, some hobbyists have that cash flow to support it. Is it right? maybe not. But is it right that all of us do what we do? Again, maybe not.

So remember this when you see that expensive fish, morish Idols or any other fish/livestock/coral that may be controversial to some. The LFS store has the right to sell what they want, if there is a market for it. We as the purchaser have the right to buy what we want, and where.

I personally respect any LFS that can be honest with me, and if they don't know, they tell me. This type of honesty goes a long way and I respect that LFS or employee much more then.

Just my 2 cents. Hope it all made sense.

[cwatkins]

Originally Posted by kien

I think vendors have the right to dodge whatever questions they want. And yes, I frequently buy from vendors that have dodge some of my questions.

Yes, I agree. Some people don't like this, and if that's the case, you can exercise your right to take your $ and shop elsewhere.

We should always be careful about bashing anyone specific online here. We don't want another Oceanic Corals type of issue to happen again.

[jorjef]

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