Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board  

Go Back   Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board > General > Reef

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-07-2010, 11:23 PM
Milad's Avatar
Milad Milad is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: North Vancouver
Posts: 901
Milad is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to Milad
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by StirCrazy View Post
why did you decide to run them at 0.7amp instead of 1 amp? just curious.

Steve
running the LEDs lower than max Amp (so 70%) makes them last longer..
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-08-2010, 12:01 AM
mseepman mseepman is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vernon
Posts: 2,529
mseepman is on a distinguished road
Default

Although I agree wtih you about the lower ma rating generating less heat and therefore extending the life of the LED, I am hoping to find a way to push the XP-G's up to 1000ma as their max is 1500 and 1000 should still leave a very long life.

I know you have found all the other items you need...but have you ordered them already?
__________________
Mark...



290g Peninsula Display, 425g total volume. Setup Jan 2013.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-08-2010, 12:08 AM
Milad's Avatar
Milad Milad is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: North Vancouver
Posts: 901
Milad is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to Milad
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mseepman View Post
Although I agree wtih you about the lower ma rating generating less heat and therefore extending the life of the LED, I am hoping to find a way to push the XP-G's up to 1000ma as their max is 1500 and 1000 should still leave a very long life.

I know you have found all the other items you need...but have you ordered them already?
thanks for pointing that out! I knew i saw 1500 somewhere. XP-G cool white are 1500
XP-E royal blue are 1000.

I might switch up my design to handle 1000 for the cool white.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-08-2010, 03:15 PM
StirCrazy's Avatar
StirCrazy StirCrazy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kamloops, BC
Posts: 7,872
StirCrazy is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Milad View Post
running the LEDs lower than max Amp (so 70%) makes them last longer..
not realy unless you exceed there max spec. the max operational is 1000mA but that will not burn them out. the problem comes in with heat. so if you up the current and don't provide an efficien way to remove the extra heat then yes the life will be shortened. If you deal with the heat then no effect.

I would personaly go with 1000mA for both as you are also using fuses and resistors to safe guard and dimable ballasts so the chances of you ever comming close to a situation where you would pump enough current/voltage to dammage the LEDs are going to be very very slim to none.

most people just run 1000mA dimable meanwells and nothing else and are not having problems. but I do like the idea of the fuses. not sure I like the parallel idea but I guess with the resistors you put to rest any concerns I have there.

Steve
__________________
*everything said above is just my opinion, and may or may not reflect the views of this BBS, its Operators, and its Members. If cornered on any “opinion” I post I will totally deny having ever said this in a Court of Law…Unless I am the right one*

Some strive to be perfect.... I just strive.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-08-2010, 03:23 PM
mseepman mseepman is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vernon
Posts: 2,529
mseepman is on a distinguished road
Default

The problem with a large build and not running parallel is that you would need a massive amount of the ELN-60-48 meanwells and they are not power factor corrected. As such, the In-rush current when/if you turned them all on at once has been considered dangerous for overheating the wiring at the receptacle.
__________________
Mark...



290g Peninsula Display, 425g total volume. Setup Jan 2013.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-08-2010, 11:48 PM
mseepman mseepman is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vernon
Posts: 2,529
mseepman is on a distinguished road
Default

Did you ever get a price and/or an expected delivery date on those HLG drivers? In looking on the cdiweb site, they all say "out of stock" and "call for pricing".
__________________
Mark...



290g Peninsula Display, 425g total volume. Setup Jan 2013.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-09-2010, 02:09 AM
Milad's Avatar
Milad Milad is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: North Vancouver
Posts: 901
Milad is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to Milad
Default

Power Supply:
well im not going with CDI because they wont ship anything but UPS and the guy seemed grumpy and he said 14weeks on everything

soo... i called meanwell, tried to find a distributer in Canada. I found one on the east coast which I emailed for prices. I also found one in cali that will ship via USPS if i ask nicely but they are about 30% more than CDI but cheaper than anyone else i found
http://wattsupply.com/s.nl/it.A/id.3056/.f

the girl was really nice and she said she would help me out if i need it USPS and could get it to for me in a couple days because her warehouse had a couple.
(i seem to have better luck with the girls than the guys)

so $114ish vs $85ish but no waiting 3 weeks.

Heatsinks:
ive also started hunting down heatsinks. for me to get the heatsinkusa heatsinks its something like $70 for shipping of all the heatsinks. They will do USPS for me though. Anyone know anywhere in Canada to pickup heatsinks?

Soldering Iron
I seem to be having a hard time finding a decent prized 40w-60w soldering station. Anyone have a lead on these? Seem to be expensive in Canada, lol. And I cant get amazon to ship them to Canada.


btw most of the other parts on my list are from digikey and they have warehouse in canada.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-09-2010, 02:31 AM
Milad's Avatar
Milad Milad is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: North Vancouver
Posts: 901
Milad is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to Milad
Default

fyi parts list and wiring diagram updated
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...4&postcount=12

switching to 1.5fuses and bigger driver
added parts for grease, nylon screws, tap
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-09-2010, 03:30 PM
mseepman mseepman is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vernon
Posts: 2,529
mseepman is on a distinguished road
Default

Have you tried these guys for the soldering station?

http://www.mainelectronics.com/solderstn.htm

I think they carry many of the ones that Amazon does.

Hope that helps.
__________________
Mark...



290g Peninsula Display, 425g total volume. Setup Jan 2013.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-10-2010, 05:08 AM
roblarss roblarss is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: rocky mountain house, ab
Posts: 70
roblarss is on a distinguished road
Default

I ordered both my drivers through future electronics as well as my LEDs. They may be a bit more than the states but shipping was relativly inexpensive and the service was great

http://www.futureelectronics.com/en/...:True,Nea:True
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.