Blue Hippo - Ich - Treating with copper

[Lance]

Originally Posted by cuz

When using copper/cupramine it kills any bacteria anyways. Cycling the tank would be for nothing.
That's why you see the ammonia spike and stay on top of your water changes!!!

+1 Check ammonia daily and change water when necessary.

[Myka]

Use water from an established reef tank for water changes if you can as it will be gentler on the fish. Don't forget to replace the Cupramine you removed, but only in the number of gallons you removed.

I would have suggested hyposalinity too as I am not a fan of copper treatments at all, but the OP has already started copper treatment.

[daniella3d]

Are you saying that because copper treatment was stated then it's too late or pointless to change to hyposalinity?

Does that mean that now that the fish is bating in copper, it won't do more dammage if the fish remains longer in that copper?

Originally Posted by Myka

I would have suggested hyposalinity too as I am not a fan of copper treatments at all, but the OP has already started copper treatment.

[Myka]

Personally, I don't treat Ich. I do treat all incoming fish with PraziPro for worms though.

Originally Posted by daniella3d

Are you saying that because copper treatment was stated then it's too late or pointless to change to hyposalinity?

Does that mean that now that the fish is bating in copper, it won't do more dammage if the fish remains longer in that copper?

Well, if you want to be argumentative about it - ya that's exactly what I mean.

[daniella3d]

I don't want to be argumentative, but am I the only one who think that treating a fish with copper for ich only to reintroduce it right back to a ich contaminated tank make ne sense what so ever??

Originally Posted by Myka

Personally, I don't treat Ich. I do treat all incoming fish with PraziPro for worms though.



Well, if you want to be argumentative about it - ya that's exactly what I mean.

[naesco]

Originally Posted by daniella3d

I don't want to be argumentative, but am I the only one who think that treating a fish with copper for ich only to reintroduce it right back to a ich contaminated tank make ne sense what so ever??

I think you are right daniella. The only time it would make sense would be if a fish were clearly very infested such that a garlic extract treatment with selcon might be difficult.
But in that case copper would not be the choice. A formalin dip would be best IME and the fish would go back to the main tank for the garlic extract treatment.

[Myka]

Originally Posted by daniella3d

I don't want to be argumentative, but am I the only one who think that treating a fish with copper for ich only to reintroduce it right back to a ich contaminated tank make ne sense what so ever??

Treating Ich doesn't make sense to me to begin with... ...almost every single tank out there has Ich in it. Every time you add a coral or rock or a fish or a snail or anything wet to your tank (unless you're extremely diligent with dipping/quarantining) you are likely to add Ich. Imo no tank is Ich free unless it has sat fallow for at least 6 weeks since the last "wet" addition. Even then, you would have to be awfully diligent about adding the quarantined fish back to the tank because fish can still carry Ich without visibly showing infection.

[daniella3d]

Nope, mine does not have ich in it and I don't want ich in it.

That's a myth that every tank has ich. Ich is a parasite and it does not have to be in a tank and on a fish. It weaken the fish and although you don't see the white dots maybe, a certain amount of parasites can still be on the gill and weaken the fish if it become stressed and create an outbreak.

Tank must be fallow for 8 weeks.

Fish can still be carrying ich without showing sign so yes an hyposalinity is not 100% garantee to get rid of it but it is much more sure than not doing quarantine, especialy if you have an ich magnet like a hippo tang. Make no mistake, people do lose fish from ich and something many fish.

Originally Posted by Myka

Treating Ich doesn't make sense to me to begin with... ...almost every single tank out there has Ich in it. Every time you add a coral or rock or a fish or a snail or anything wet to your tank (unless you're extremely diligent with dipping/quarantining) you are likely to add Ich. Imo no tank is Ich free unless it has sat fallow for at least 6 weeks since the last "wet" addition. Even then, you would have to be awfully diligent about adding the quarantined fish back to the tank because fish can still carry Ich without visibly showing infection.