Ultimatereef.com TOTM keeps a yellow tang in a 30gal...

[Borderjumper]

Originally Posted by christyf5

well you're here and you don't even have a tank, what does that say about you then?

ZING!!!!

[naesco]

Originally Posted by RuGlu6

If we would REALLY CARE about fish we would NEVER keep it in the glass box period. As long as we buy fish it will be offered for sale. And eventually fish will die for one reason or the other.
Nothing what we can provide will compare to the ocean.
JMTCW

But if we choose to get into this hobby we have an obligation to provide the optimum care of the critters we keep.

[gobytron]

Originally Posted by naesco

But if we choose to get into this hobby we have an obligation to provide the optimum care of the critters we keep.

how do you figure?

Buying an aquarium is all of a sudden supposed to supply people with a moral compass of some sort?

all you're doing is imposing your own ideals of what constitutes optimum care on someone who likely could care less about your ideals....they probably hae their own to worry about.

If you were REALLY that righteous, you would not be in this hobby. period.

sorry, but the double standard stated earler in this thread is just so obvious that its best to accept that we are all responsible in some way shape or form of taking an animal out of their optimum environment and placing it in one built out of our own greed.

give it all the "optimum care" you think it deserves, it doesn't change a thing IMO, it's still a fish out of (ocean) water.

[Murminator]

Ok outside of beating the tang thing to death....what an awesome simple tank

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by gobytron

how do you figure?

Buying an aquarium is all of a sudden supposed to supply people with a moral compass of some sort?

all you're doing is imposing your own ideals of what constitutes optimum care on someone who likely could care less about your ideals....they probably hae their own to worry about.

If you were REALLY that righteous, you would not be in this hobby. period.

sorry, but the double standard stated earler in this thread is just so obvious that its best to accept that we are all responsible in some way shape or form of taking an animal out of their optimum environment and placing it in one built out of our own greed.

give it all the "optimum care" you think it deserves, it doesn't change a thing IMO, it's still a fish out of (ocean) water.

Sorry, but I really have to take issue with this post. It is certainly possible to provide reasonable care to most of the animals living in our custody and yes there is absolutely an obligation to do so.

We're not talking about people getting ****ed off because he's being fed month old supermarket Nori instead of frozen food, or stuck in a tank without zeovit or being told he's handsome every day, or whatever unique quirky preference you can read about on any given forum. We're also not talking about someone who picked up a tank and bought the yellow as their first fish. Common accepted knowledge and practices tell us that tangs need LOTS of swimming space and this guy has been keeping fish long enough to know better.

Lets switch it away from fish for a second, if you want to buy a pair of super high energy border collies I'm not going to sit back and criticise what kind of food you buy them, whether they're crated at night or not, etc. BUT, if you leave them locked in a 10x20 room or on a 10 foot chain in the yard, all day every day you can bet that people will get ****ed off and say something about it. This is the same thing.

When you purchase or accept a pet, and I don't care if it's a dog, cat, horse, fish, coral, etc. You accept the obligation to provide reasonable care for it... that means nutrition, air/water quality, exercise, and living space. If you can't handle that obligation you have no business whatsoever owning a frickin animal. It really is that simple.

[MitchM]

As responsible hobbyists it's important that we pass along "best practices" methods as we learn from our collective experience.
How that comes across is sometimes misinterpreted.



Don't you people work?

Mitch

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by christyf5

well you're here and you don't even have a tank, what does that say about you then?

its because of the tang police.. I can't aford a tank big enough to keep a 1" yellow tank in for fear I will be chased off the board....

and for your info, I had 5 tanks... in the garage

Steve

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by MitchM

Don't you people work?

Mitch

heck no, Im retired and loving it

Steve

[Skimmerking]

well I might as well jump in I have a 8 year old KOLE tang and he is may be 5" max not a big one , however i have seen 10" koles in Disney when I was there 3 years ago.

[MitchM]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

heck no, Im retired and loving it

Steve

You're too young. You're going to get bored!

Mitch