Swine Flu/H1N1 Vaccination - Yes or No?

[pinhead]

Originally Posted by rjengen

we just take the time to research all of the facts that are now out their due to the internet.

Unless you are visiting the sites of universities, hospitals, governments or scientific journals, I would be very suspicous and skeptical of information I found on the internet. Anyone can form their own organization, anyone can set up their own website and say whatever they want.

This link http://logisticsmonster.com/2009/10/...ccine-dangers/ has been mentioned as a source of information.

This is from the impressive sounding "4th International Public Conference on Vaccinations (sponsored by the Nat’l Vaccine Information Center) in October, 2009" http://www.nvic.org/default.aspx

Sounds like a scientific conference and a research facility but a little digging would show:

National Vaccine Information Center was founded in 1982 by Barbara Loe Fisher. She formed the Centre after her son suffered convulsions at the age of 2 1/2 and was left with learning disabilities and ADD. She claims this was a result of a vaccination.

Her education is bachelor of arts degree in English from the University of Maryland and she was employed by the New York Life Insurance Company.

Some of the exhibitors at the conference were E-HolisticHealth.com; Homeopaths.ca; Homeopathy Center of Houston;


This information is from someone with no background in science, who has done no real research and is supported by businesses who believe in crap - Homeopaths

Get your advice from the experts. Don't listen to the opinions of people who do not have a background in science or have no expertise in this field.

I would not ask my insurance agent about repairing my car. Why would you listen to them regarding your health.

[midgetwaiter]

I often wonder what will happen to these anti vaccine nuts if they manage to convince a parent to not vaccinate a child that ends up sterile from the mumps. Try and fix that with Oil of horsesh*t tea.

[Ron99]

Originally Posted by pinhead

Unless you are visiting the sites of universities, hospitals, governments or scientific journals, I would be very suspicous and skeptical of information I found on the internet. Anyone can form their own organization, anyone can set up their own website and say whatever they want.

This link http://logisticsmonster.com/2009/10/...ccine-dangers/ has been mentioned as a source of information.

This is from the impressive sounding "4th International Public Conference on Vaccinations (sponsored by the Nat’l Vaccine Information Center) in October, 2009" http://www.nvic.org/default.aspx

Sounds like a scientific conference and a research facility but a little digging would show:

National Vaccine Information Center was founded in 1982 by Barbara Loe Fisher. She formed the Centre after her son suffered convulsions at the age of 2 1/2 and was left with learning disabilities and ADD. She claims this was a result of a vaccination.

Her education is bachelor of arts degree in English from the University of Maryland and she was employed by the New York Life Insurance Company.

Some of the exhibitors at the conference were E-HolisticHealth.com; Homeopaths.ca; Homeopathy Center of Houston;


This information is from someone with no background in science, who has done no real research and is supported by businesses who believe in crap - Homeopaths

Get your advice from the experts. Don't listen to the opinions of people who do not have a background in science or have no expertise in this field.

I would not ask my insurance agent about repairing my car. Why would you listen to them regarding your health.

Good information. I didn't even bother to look up the conference or organization as the video had nothing of any actual substance in it but was a collection of sound bites assembled to frighten people and make vaccines look bad. But nobody actually cites any actual research or really even mentions anything specific. Just lots of general nonsense.

[EmilyB]

I remember some of the same when the seasonal flu vaccines started coming out. I started taking them every year and haven't been sick since. I love that !

I want the H1N1 shot, I wouldn't risk the people I love by passing it along should I get it. Don't much care about the hype.

I can't stand in long lineups because of my back, so I hope there is an alternative way out there.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

For anyone who has already had the shot in B.C., what do you need to take with you? Health card or just ID? My fiancee has decided to get it because of her underlying asthma problems. I assumed showing them her prescribed puffer would be enough to prove she has asthma.

[intarsiabox]

I'm not sure about BC but in Alberta the regular flu shot is free to all family members if one of them has asthma and since the H1N1 shot is free to all canadians I'm sure any ID or the puffer should be adequate.

I really have to wonder if all this conspiracy was around when the polio or small pox vaccines came out. Both of these diseases have almost been totally wiped out because of vaccines. People claim that vaccines are the cause of some other problems but that really doesn't explain the millions of other people who contract these diseases and never received vaccinations of any sort. It's unfortunate that genetic diseases exist but people are born with the gene and science doesn't know enough about gene therapy yet to solve the problems. As a parent I would be angry too if one of my children got a disabling disease and might seek to blame something for it. So I understand why people feel that way but if I took my first ever Tylanol and down the road I developed autism which I bet lots of people who develop the disease has taken the drug I wouldn't blame Tylanol I would blame bad genes. I really don't think people go to university because their life long ambition is to become an evil scientist and destroy the world, I would think most just want to make a positive difference in the world.

[Delphinus]

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

I really have to wonder if all this conspiracy was around when the polio or small pox vaccines came out.

I think you nailed it right here. I have to wonder how much paranoia, mistrust, hype and hysteria are around because there are not many left in our current generation who have lived through an actual serious pandemic. If you take a walk through a cemetery old enough to cover the year 1917, it is interesting (and sad) to note how many young people (young adults, children, infants) were laid to rest that year. That was the flu. How many would have been prevented had there been a vaccine?

[Myka]

Tylenol.

Good information here...makes me wonder about all this. Actually I am stressing about it because I don't know what to do. Usually when I don't know what to do I do nothing.