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					Originally Posted by ElGuappo  i was in on the first contest and here's my 2 pennies.
 total volume... does it include external overflows, sumps? make it known.
 
 imo no existing tanks... isn't the whole point of this to see a tank from startup to the end date? also levels the playing field. you could use these tanks if you want to empty and start anew.
 
 budget.. i wouldn't include glass (unless starfire.. add the difference), plumbing or stands in this.. just lights, skimmer,heater, doser pumps/ph's etc. and yes livestock too. again keep the playing field fair. all expenses should be shown. Use an online retailer or two ( any, maybe even an American one) for pricing. level playing field and all...
 
 just my thoughts..
 
 i may be in.. its debatable.
 
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 thank for the input , so from scratch it is, tonight ill do up a rough idea and we can adjust as we all feel needed.ill make it so sign up has to be done for oct1 and then we can start
