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Aqua-Digital 04-25-2012 04:07 PM

Time lapse of Grazing diet feeding frenzy
 
action starts at 15 seconds in!

http://vimeo.com/40985858

full review here
http://reefbuilders.com/2012/04/25/e...fun-feed-fish/

tim the toolman 04-25-2012 04:33 PM

Very cool video. I have tried this product as well and can't get my grazers to touch it for the life of me lol.

Aqua-Digital 04-25-2012 04:44 PM

Theres always one LOL

I think there are enough videos out there now of how successful this product is, not to mention we cant keep it in stock.

The more important aspect of New era is of course you are feeding your fish food that is accredited with nearly all the major public aquariums and also fish research centers, new era is not just another food, everyone that reports back to us always say the same thing, how well their fish take to the product but also the physical changes they see in both growth and colour.

One of our newer dealers in the fresh water side used to have a lot of trouble with keeping catfish alive, if these species are not fed the correct diet they die from malnutrition. Since changing from NLS to New era, they have never had this issue since.

Another interesting point is that many people turn their nose up at flake, but as soon as they try it their minds are changed in an instant

this thread is well worth looking at
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=85716

H22_TURBO 04-25-2012 04:46 PM

I find they make a mess of my tank, tried them just the other day and yes the tangs pick at it but it just falls apart to quickly. maybe I have a bad can of food but I doubt it. just a million little food particles in the tank for a couple hours.

tim the toolman 04-25-2012 04:47 PM

I wasn't being critical of the product by any means. The store I bought it from was using it and his grazers went crazy for it as do yours obviously. I was simply saying that for some reason mine don't touch it. Just picky I guess.
Ps I did start by saying the video was very cool. I think the proof of the product is shown in the video

tim the toolman 04-25-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H22_TURBO (Post 709824)
I find they make a mess of my tank, tried them just the other day and yes the tangs pick at it but it just falls apart to quickly. maybe I have a bad can of food but I doubt it. just a million little food particles in the tank for a couple hours.

+1
Decided to try another after watching the vid. Figure it deserves a second chance lol.

Aqua-Digital 04-25-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim the toolman (Post 709825)
I wasn't being critical of the product by any means. The store I bought it from was using it and his grazers went crazy for it as do yours obviously. I was simply saying that for some reason mine don't touch it. Just picky I guess.
Ps I did start by saying the video was very cool. I think the proof of the product is shown in the video

Dont worry did not read it as such ;)

Aqua-Digital 04-25-2012 04:52 PM

In regards to breaking down, this is opposite completely to what the reefbuilders review found and 100% opposite to any global feedback, review or video, take a look at our own video in my tank.

If you send me a clear picture of your pot we will send your LFS a new one but we are not aware of any issues anywhere, I know how reefers react to anything they find negative so it would be all over the boards. The food is based on raw cold compressed fish meal thats the key to it, so it will go off on the shelf, if in a humid enviroment for a too long period it could potentially break down, but I have no cases of this on file.

Also make sure its not in a high current area of the tank, this can lead to particle break off.

we have distributed stacks of pots and the feedback has been huge and positive.

As I said before, have a look at all the videos, there is no cloduing or falling apart apparent.

But we are happy to send your LFS another pot just in case it was placed in a humid enviroment in the store.

The repeat orders of the product are huge so we do not see this being a large issues, but we are happy to make you happy.

Aqua-Digital 04-25-2012 05:19 PM

sorry guys should of added, please send you pot photos to sales@aqua-digital.com so we can send your LFS free new pots. As this is not a heard of issue anywhere its important you get fresh pots.

Aqua-Digital 04-25-2012 05:52 PM

Here are some more great videos, one in the UAE feeding the commercial size (same product just larger)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTfdXlEL5yM

Some great close up shots

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/DSCF4452.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/DSCF4448.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/DSCF4443.jpg

The above photos are quite relevant as it shows close up no particle break off of any significant amount or water clouding

Another great video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f74wwin1Wug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB-Iw...eature=related

Cal_stir 04-25-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim the toolman (Post 709818)
Very cool video. I have tried this product as well and can't get my grazers to touch it for the life of me lol.

I bought 2 containers, got all but one left, got 20 fish that eat vegie sheets but not one took a bite.

Aqua-Digital 04-25-2012 10:43 PM

As with all new foods you will get a transition period to what they are used to, more so when dealing with a high natural diet like New Era. If your fish have been used to algae wafers that have very little taste or possibly nutritional value then I am sure they will at first ignore such a high pallet taste, they are not used to it, the first thing fish go for is shape and flavour, if they do not recognise it they will at first ignore it. But if you want your fish to have the best posible diet, then you need to follow the food transition guidence.

This is an excellent thread here about food transition

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72550

One other great point is this - We recently received an order for 50Kg of the grazing diet from Toronto zoo, now Toronto has the most strict regime with foods they buy including fish food, so much so they have their own nutritionists that are qualified in the dietry management of all fish, they took 3 months to evaluate the grazing diet before deciding it was what they hoped for. Furthermore the grazing diet is used in all these public aquariums.

http://www.new-era-aquaculture.com/p.../north-america

That list in the link is JUST the USA alone.

I know a few on here have reported little success, however when you follow correct guidelines in regards to adding new foods you WILL reap the rewards

I could not be more passionate about this becuase New ERA IS without doubt not just a food you dump in your tank, its proven, researched and qualified that what you are feeding gives the upmost nutritional value to your chosen species. Even raw fish meal does not give as much as New Era does, however its blend is very much based on the raw components, this is why it is not heated at baked rates, instead cold compressed.

If this was not true then would all these aquariums that all have in house nutritionists use New Era?

check out the full list yourself in the link above under the heading "who uses New Era"

if its good enough for such a regulated market then it should be good enough for you ;)

All I say is you need to remember food transition and if you want to reap the rewards all the research centers (including Vancouver research) see in the product then it is worth following.

Feeding New Era is feeding the most professional food on the market with a proven and high profile following, but as with anything of high pallet taste you must allow your fish to adjust.

I guess the last thing to add are all these videos and photos fake? ;)

Aqua-Digital 04-25-2012 10:54 PM

Just in case you still have doubts ;)

Here are some more videos of the food in action ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZTnA...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqb2A...layer_embedded

JetJumper 04-25-2012 11:14 PM

My fish go crazy for this stuff. Its like crack for fish I find! Just takes them time to get used to it. Try feeding the algae waffers right next to the suction cup and see if they take a bite of it. I have an orange shoulder that took a few days to warm up to it, but now the second I put it in I can't even get my hands away before he is trying to eat it between my fingers!

Jaws 04-25-2012 11:38 PM

I absolutely love this product but isn't it rather crazy expensive if you're feeding one wheel per day or am I missing something?

JetJumper 04-26-2012 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 709960)
I absolutely love this product but isn't it rather crazy expensive if you're feeding one wheel per day or am I missing something?

I personally feed it once or twice a week. as a "treat"

The Grizz 04-26-2012 12:39 AM

I have to put 2 of these disks in at the same time, I don't even get it n the suction cup before my fish try to attack it. They don't have time to break up before the fish totally devour it. I do notice that the tank gets a little cloudy during the feeding feast but it really doesn't bother me that much.

intarsiabox 04-26-2012 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Grizz (Post 709976)
I have to put 2 of these disks in at the same time, I don't even get it n the suction cup before my fish try to attack it. They don't have time to break up before the fish totally devour it. I do notice that the tank gets a little cloudy during the feeding feast but it really doesn't bother me that much.

My fish are little pigs, I get the same reaction no matter what I'm feeding them. It's got to the point were I can hardly even watch the tank anymore because they just all come to the front glass and stare at me, I have to be a ways away for them to act naturally. I haven't tried these disks yet but I don't really have any grazers either.

Aqua-Digital 04-26-2012 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 709960)
I absolutely love this product but isn't it rather crazy expensive if you're feeding one wheel per day or am I missing something?

This is not a food for daily feeding unless you are looking to beat the fatest Tang record :mrgreen:.

Its for sure a treat, two at most three times a week, but a treat that packs a mass of highly beneficial nutrition

Here is my diet plan and my only Tang being a Chevron is quite a fat little chump! Take into account this is a very lightly stock 60 gal cube

every day for one week - Aegis flake diet
Once a week - one puck of grazing diet
following week - Marine flake in the morning and Algal flake in the evening
Once in that week - grazing puck

In between this the odd day gets marine and algal pellet mixture.

Aqua-Digital 04-26-2012 01:52 AM

Just as an FYi with progressive reef closing, if you need supply on the island Paws N Jaws up island now have an account with us and are already starting to fill their shelves.

Drop in and see Barry.

Slick Fork 04-26-2012 02:41 AM

Nothing like watching a feeding frenzy!

Who carries this line in Calgary?

Aqua-Digital 04-26-2012 02:45 AM

red coral
pisces pet emporium
wais (not sure of current stock level)

if any of the above dont have what you require tell them and it will be with you in a few days or if one is not your favoured LFS get them to contact us, but it is widely available now.

The Grizz 04-26-2012 02:45 AM

Pieces had it last time I was there as well as the marine pellets and the algea pellets that I have also switch to.

Aqua-Digital 04-26-2012 02:49 AM

Pisces have a new order going up tomorrow, this will include the whole fresh water range as well.

Delphinus 04-26-2012 04:10 AM

Timelapse of 2 hours!!! :lol: That could have been my tank filmed in real-time. Well, ok, it's not done in 2 minutes for real, but maybe about 20 and it's GONE.

Kind of wish we could buy it in bulk though, a container doesn't last me very long. :( Plus buying in bulk maybe could give the option of not needing to get a suction cup with every purchase, my collection of suction cups is starting to grow. :lol:

The Grizz 04-26-2012 04:18 AM

+1,000,000 on both comments, 2 of them last about an hr & every fish in my tank seems to enjoy it ( there all pigs!!! )

I would love to see a bulk container of not only the algea grazers but the marine & algea pellets. I love the fact that the pellets are soft and it allows smaller fish to bite off a chunk of a bigger pellet.

Jason McK 04-26-2012 04:22 AM

Sorry this might have been answered already but who is carrying this in the Vancouver area?

Another great product thanks Michael

Aqua-Digital 04-26-2012 11:20 AM

For Vancouver talk to Tim at Sea care

Yes I hear everyones call for the larger containers and they will be here on the next shipmnt in about 8 weeks, so hold tight its coming and we have taken genuine note for this.

Delphinus 04-26-2012 02:43 PM

Cool!

Derek14 04-27-2012 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 710025)
Timelapse of 2 hours!!! :lol: That could have been my tank filmed in real-time. Well, ok, it's not done in 2 minutes for real, but maybe about 20 and it's GONE.

Kind of wish we could buy it in bulk though, a container doesn't last me very long. :( Plus buying in bulk maybe could give the option of not needing to get a suction cup with every purchase, my collection of suction cups is starting to grow. :lol:

Delphinus

I glued mine on a TLF veggie mag clip. Just remove the clip and glue it right onto it.

Snaz 04-27-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 710081)
For Vancouver talk to Tim at Sea care

Yes I hear everyones call for the larger containers and they will be here on the next shipmnt in about 8 weeks, so hold tight its coming and we have taken genuine note for this.

Sorry where is Sea Care please?

Aqua-Digital 04-27-2012 01:27 PM

They have sponsored area on this forum

Delphinus 04-27-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek14 (Post 710476)
Delphinus

I glued mine on a TLF veggie mag clip. Just remove the clip and glue it right onto it.

That's an excellent idea, but I was more referring to that I don't need a new suction cup for every package of 20 disks. Thus, my collection of them is growing because I never seem to throw anything out. :lol:

Aqua-Digital 04-27-2012 02:49 PM

For a nominal fee your LFS can remove the suction cup for you :mrgreen:

We will be getting the bigger pots, they will be on the next shipment, we are just retail evaluating the fresh water range that just came in to determine stocking levels and then the June order will be placed.

tim the toolman 04-28-2012 05:15 PM

As I am not afraid to print a retraction, I figured I should update my opinion of this product.
Over the past week since this thread was posted I have tried adding a grazing ring every second day to get the fish used to them and have had ever improving success. It started with only my chromis being interested in them and now all my grazers have shown interest and are making great progress on them. I will definitely continue use of this product as it is not only great for viewing the fish but seems to offer them something to do for hours at a time.

Aqua-Digital 04-28-2012 05:18 PM

Thats great news, it does show how important food transition is.

Many thanks for the updated feedback.


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