Awsome T5 Pendants By Fauna Marin

[Powertec]

It is possible to have a dimmable ballast fire more than two lamps.

[Aqua-Digital]

Ok I refraze - maybe possible but NOT designed to.

Talk to both Advance and Sylvania about this, I have and the above is the answer I got. if it was possible we would be using this method as it saves cost and lowers heat, it does not make economic sense to not do something if feasible.

There are reasons why manufacturers advise otherise and when building a quality product it is ill advised to go against what they state.

[Powertec]

I am looking at advances electrical engineering 2009 right now and they are miss quoting you.

Just saying what our engineering book says.

[Powertec]

Just trying to say you might want to check into other manufacturers for cheaper, but just as good tolerances if not better.

Advance is far from the best manufacturer.

[Aqua-Digital]

Not quite sure why the head of technical in would miss quote but makes no odds really, the fauna lamp will run with 2 tubes on one ballast as this also ties in with the other electonics that are incorporated.

We have checked with other manufacturers also, the ballast to be used is NOT Advance

Hope that helps

[Aqua-Digital]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

OK new information -

lamps will come with control module so there will be only one power line coming out of the module, unlike other Fixtures that have 2 or more and maybe a DC line also

ALL lamps will come with LED moon lights installed, when the lamps go off the moon lights come on.

Dimming - To begin with 24w 39w and 54w will be made available in dimming, the dimming will be controlled by GHL ProfiLux, the ProfiLux simply plugs into the control module of the lamp fixture. 80w dimming will follow on possibly in February

The fixtures will be slightly wider than originally planned to incorporate the latest additions

Later next year there will be further advances in the dimming options

Availability - orders can be taken from late December for first wave shipping in late january, from then on there will be steady supply.

Thats it for now but i am sure you will agree this fixture is turning out to be hard to beat

If you have any questions on the above latest info let me know

[loveless]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

OK new information -

lamps will come with control module so there will be only one power line coming out of the module, unlike other Fixtures that have 2 or more and maybe a DC line also

ALL lamps will come with LED moon lights installed, when the lamps go off the moon lights come on.

Dimming - To begin with 24w 39w and 54w will be made available in dimming, the dimming will be controlled by GHL ProfiLux, the ProfiLux simply plugs into the control module of the lamp fixture. 80w dimming will follow on possibly in February

The fixtures will be slightly wider than originally planned to incorporate the latest additions

Later next year there will be further advances in the dimming options

Availability - orders can be taken from late December for first wave shipping in late january, from then on there will be steady supply.

Thats it for now but i am sure you will agree this fixture is turning out to be hard to beat

1 Will the power line be for power only, switching multiple tubes per unit, and with a separate control cable?

2 Will the LED's be independently controlled so you can have various numbers of them on per unit? And if so can this be controlled by the profilux to simulate the moon phase?

3 Is the dimming on a set parameter as in 100% or 50% or 0%. Or is it variable as in 0% all the way up to 100% ?

4 When you say there are further advances in dimming options later in the year do you know what these options are? and are these lights going incorporate something like the profilux and can be 100% upgradeable?

5 For the light to be off does it need to be hooked up to the Profilux power bar or will the dimmable part of the light be able to switch it off?

Thanks Cam

[Aqua-Digital]

1 Will the power line be for power only, switching multiple tubes per unit, and with a separate control cable?

No the control cable will be within the powerline going into the control box

2 Will the LED's be independently controlled so you can have various numbers of them on per unit? And if so can this be controlled by the profilux to simulate the moon phase?

No these will be independant and not controlled by the ProfiLux

3 Is the dimming on a set parameter as in 100% or 50% or 0%. Or is it variable as in 0% all the way up to 100% ?

As with ALL GHL dimming capabilities it will be 0% to 100%

4 When you say there are further advances in dimming options later in the year do you know what these options are? and are these lights going incorporate something like the profilux and can be 100% upgradeable?

Yes - 80watt dimmable, as for the profiLux, there will be an option to purchase a GHL Profilux light II to run the dimmable modules, if you want a profilux that is upgradeable then at time of purchase talk to your retailer about a deal on a ProfiLux plus II

5 For the light to be off does it need to be hooked up to the Profilux power bar or will the dimmable part of the light be able to switch it off?

The lamp will be fitted with zero volt switching as standard

[Canadian]

Can you clarify something for me?

Will the non-dimmable fixtures have only one cord also? If that's the case does that mean that if the fixture is not controlled with a GHL controller that all the lamps will turn on and and off at the same time?

Also, will non-dimmable 24" 6 and 8 lamp fixtures be released in the first wave of released fixtures? (I just checked the sister thread on RC and see that a 6 lamp 24" fixture is the retail standard so you can ignore this question )

What is the standard fixture color?

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

Well considering "GOOD" ballasts that are able to cope with the spectrum required for Reef tanks, come in at trade cost around $75 before any wiring, quick fire end caps.

Ballasts normally will fire 2 tubes so before you even get off the starting block you are upto $300 trade cost in ballasts before anything else for your 8 lamp set up..

Ballasts don't handle spectrum, they put out current at a voltage. the only deference between cheep ones and expensive ones, is how many years they will last. Also there ,may be better range of input voltage operating range. But yes I didn't include ballasts in my previous post. you can get real good t5 bare ballast for about 40.00 last time I looked.

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

Extrusion is very expensive also and so too is UV protected clear acrylic for bulb protection. I wish it was as easy as you say, bend a lump of metal! Hmmm you seen the tooling involved to get cnc precise fixtures?

Add to that, polished single reflectors, electronics etc etc it does not take much to work out where most the cost lies.

extrusion is expensive to make the die for, it is very cheep to produce after that, which is exactly what I posted previously. I was referring to the prototype in the bending as you are not going to make extrusion tooling to see if thats what you want to use.

As for reflectors, if you use the good stuff, and make 12 (12" x 24" ) finished size it would cost me about 15.00 per reflector

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

If you can find tubes for $5 a piece ($40 stated 8 x 5 ) that produce the correct spectrum also, I will buy 1,000 from you today!!

To get a lamp less than $500 I would be very concerned to what i was buying.

Remember you cant put a shop light in the same category as a lamp for a dedicated reef system, they are two completely different beasts. One is there just to produce a visual illumination, the other is to replicate the natural sun. Not an easy task.

the price on tubes is probably very close to what the manufactures charge the wholesalers for them. If you are a company who is going to be buying a tone of bulbs, or have there own branded bulbs you are going to be buying enough to have them cheep.

as for the difference between a shop light and fish light, only a couple ascetics, and bulbs.

yes there is differences in some of the materials, one might be powder coated steel, the other aluminum.. ballasts, ect... there is not much more in cost aside from ballast and bulbs.

Steve