crabs new 24" cube

[fishytime]

If there is a bright side, it is, that it is better to have flatworms now, rather than after the tank is stocked Let me know if you need any "exit" I have a stash.

[Delphinus]

No experience with a leopard wrasse but I can tell you that I tried a canary wrasse and he cleared up flatworms in my tank within 2 weeks. I assume it might be a similar story with the leopard, don't know for sure though.

[i have crabs]

im shure ive read somewhere they eat them, so by the time i add the wrass to the tank i should know wether the worms are gonna be a issue or not, i pick up the wrass and a bicolor blennie today so 3 weeks or so in the qt and i can add them,
i also ended up with 8 new sps colonys thanks to sales at redcoral and golds today, one from rc look real brown almost black but i liked the look of it and when i put it in the tank you could see its a dark blue and damb its nice,infact all the stuff i got is lookin real nice so no comlaints except i have no where to put them untill the new light gets here

[Doug]

My leopard ate flatworms. Certainly not enough to help out with the amount I had. Between him and my mandarin, they helped but not enough to rid me of them.

In your case, with only a few, he may help before it becomes worse. I do know several aquarists that have had success with the yellow coris Tony mentioned and six lines but now with the leopard in there, I would not add those.

[i have crabs]

im gonna try a mystery wrasse ansd maybe a manderin,but that wont be for a bit still and hopefull it goes well the tank might be a bit small for a manderin even though i have 70-80lbs of rock.

[i have crabs]

alright finally something to update on,
the giesemann infinity finally showed up, didnt take long to install even though the hanging kit was a bit stupid i thought.its a bit rigged up for now but thats ok.
with the new light on the tank i can now do a nice big waterchange and start adding some corals that are ballancing all over my other tank
the par numbers with the new light put things right where i wanted them, so i didnt waste my money for once so thats a nice change too
the top of the tank not quite under the surface was a par of 1700 right under the 250w, directly under the bulb in the center of the tank was in the 350 range while anywhere not right under the bulb was in the 500-600 range, and the bottom front was getting 250-300, so basicly double and a bit what i was getting with the 8 t5 bulbs





other than that i treated the tank with flatworm exit 3 times 2 of which i used quite a bit more than i should have and i still have flatworms, i only see the odd one on the glass once in a while but their in there.
ive added a bicolor blennie and have a mystery wrasse in the qt for another week or so.


before i added the blennie i was trying to catch the couple isopods that got in the tank with the rock and i ended up with around 20 of them sucking on a chunk of shrimp i tried to get some pics but thier so small it was hard to get anything clear

[Tine]

great info, I get my first tank in a couple of weeks, 25g nano. Our son (Snaz) is going to help me set it up. Love the rock on the back wall, would love to do something similar. I will follow this thread with great anticipation.

[i have crabs]

well did something stupid last night, so ill be awaiting someone to hit me with a you know what.
since the tank is now ready for corals the last real step was to do a big waterchange check the levels and start enjoying.
how it actually went was i did the waterchange which ended up being about 20-25g smaller than i thought it was but big enough a bit after i tested the alk at 6dkh i though frig its still that low so i grabed the jugs of 2 part i had and poured about 200-250ml of each about 5 mins abart and in seperate areas.
i came back maybe an hour later and had a snowstorm in the tank... great im an idiot i thought

what i think happened is for the last month ive been dumping a bit of kents coralline excelerator stuff i got at macna so ive been adding calcium but no alkalinity and when i tested the alk at 6 i didnt even test the calcium cause i just assumed it would also be low since i forgot about the coralline stuff. anyway thismorning all my fantastic purple rocks where covered in chalk and my skimmer was filled with chalk and my glass was covered in chalk... yes there was a nice white coating of chalk everwhere and i continue feeling a bit stupid but atleast i now know what it liiks like when calcium precipitates in your tank..

other than that my mystery wrasse has decided he dosent want to eat and has a nice case of pop eye, i noticed it slightly when i got him home last sat but today its worse and im stressing a bit about a $100 fish not eating

[i have crabs]

well ive had the new light for a month now and love it, the 250w bulb is a bit yellow for my liking but not badenough to spend the money for a new one yet i think its a 13k so maybe ill try a 15-18k when im ready.
since getting the new light ive been adding corals a bit at a time, i actually thought i added some pics but i guess not, i was really wanting to not use big blobs of epoxy all over the place but havnt really been able to avoid it so now im just gonna live with it.
i usually always used the deltec epoxy but tried a few other things to see what i liked best,deltec epoxy is a fairly firm product when mixed up and easy to mold arond corals and rocks and still have the strength to hold(if that makes any sense), i tried the twolittlefishies epoxy and found it very soft when mixed almost to the point that you cant hold anything up untill it starts hardning, the part i do like is it hardens very quick compared to the deltec stuff which is nice sometimes even though i tend to waste small chunks cause it would be to hard to use when i would be ready to do another frag or whatever.
i also tried the zeovit speedglue, it was a real pain to figure out the best way of mixing the stuff so it would work but after a few tries i got it down fairly good, the problem i would have is once you get it mixed to a kind of playdough like chunk it would be hard in like 30 seconds so you need to be ready and know exactly what your doing with it, i tended to waste quite a bit of this also since i usually mixed up more than i needed, its kinda a pain to mix it up every time your ready to use some like if your gonna mount 2 or 3 things your probably gonna mix up 2-3 batches. definatly has it place and im glad i bought it, i like the grey cement look alot better than the fake purple expoy look also.

the other day i also noticed another mantis in the tank, not happy about it but thats how it is, i bought a trap from bigals for $20 but since nobody at the factory was smart enough to makeshure it dosent float i havnt tried it yet. i did a getto silicone chunk of glass to the bottom job. and i hope i catch this mantis soon, hes about 2.5-3" i though it was a pistol shrimp and never payed much mind to it untill i seen the little jerk hiding under a coral.

a couple pics for a update




ive had trouble keeping anything in the center due to the strong flow, i put the vortec back in cause the tunze was just too much of a stream in a tank this size, ive tried a few corals and the keep getting dead tips from the flow
ive also decided that i dont have room for a clam so ill be putting in a flame angle and hopefully he can behave with the sps, the bicolour blennie nips the underneath of the mili sometimes but nothing major sofar

[Delphinus]

The flow shape is wider from the Vortech? Odd, I would have thought they were nearly the same shape. That's good to know...