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Old 08-07-2002, 11:34 AM
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Default 400W radiums. anyone here use em?

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I know that you are trying to sell people these SonAgro ballasts but have you ever tried to test the bulbs after 6 monthes with a color spectrom meter? compared to new bulb. I think that if you did this you would then see a big difference and realize that overdriving them will shorten the life span considerably. Thanks
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Jayson you seem to be obsed because I have offer people the radium half you normal price but YOU are trying to sale stuff I dont try anyting more here than help people save money
I pay the agro ballast 85$ and offers it at 90$
you LFS symply alway doulbe the price so dont try of accused me of anyting

I respect you and tink you try to help to but could you show us a bit more about you ballast
what are the spec of that ballast

As for testing the bulb with a spectrometer I have not and will not because I dont care as long as my coral will look happy the rest is only useless but did you tested it ?

Anyway the ballast you offered is a good deal and if he is good as you said I WILL recomend people
to buy and I will even orther you tree for my tank but for now the best for my $ are the agro show us a bit more about it than said that
he is the balast Radium recomend and show us pic and comparison between agro or blueline whith it

Tank

[ 07 August 2002, 07:48: Message edited by: stephane ]
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Old 08-07-2002, 01:37 PM
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Default 400W radiums. anyone here use em?

Jayson you seem to be obsed because I have offer people the radium half you normal price but YOU are trying to sale stuff I dont try anyting more here than help people save money

I am not upset that you are doing this. What you decide to do is your business. I have an overhead to maintain. I dropped my price down to $134.99 because I received a better buy on the bulbs by purchasing quantity. I charge what I charge based on service. Are you going to take the bulbs back if they fail? Are you going to deal with warrenty issues?

I pay the agro ballast 85$ and offers it at 90$
you LFS symply alway doulbe the price so dont try of accused me of anyting

I do not double my price on my balasts or bulbs. I have not accused you of anything. Where are you reading this?

I respect you and tink you try to help to but could you show us a bit more about you ballast
what are the spec of that ballast

I will post the specs of the ballast later. I will have to find them again.

As for testing the bulb with a spectrometer I have not and will not because I dont care as long as my coral will look happy the rest is only useless but did you tested it ?

I myself have not tested it. I am going on tests that have been conducted by other people in the industry.

Anyway the ballast you offered is a good deal and if he is good as you said I WILL recomend people
to buy and I will even orther you tree for my tank but for now the best for my $ are the agro show us a bit more about it than said that
he is the balast Radium recomend and show us pic and comparison between agro or blueline whith it

I can not show you a comparision pic to a Blueline ballast as I do carry these ballasts. I will not be carrying these or the Son Agro. The only way that I will be able to do pics is if you send me one of your ballasts.
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Old 08-07-2002, 01:44 PM
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Default 400W radiums. anyone here use em?

From the info that I have received the ballasts will power all the German/Euro bulbs out there with no problem. It is in the way the ballasts are designed. The bulb is brighter than on a regular 400 watt ballast. The color difference is a much cleaner looking whie blue. As far as comparing it to other ballasts I have yet to do that due to not having any others at this time. Thanks
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Old 08-07-2002, 02:42 PM
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Default 400W radiums. anyone here use em?

Jayson, you're saying then that the "Blue Wave" ballasts are the correct or at least close to correct ballast for Radium bulbs? I've never heard of this company (doesn't mean much ;) )...are you aware of anyone using these ballasts that has posted pics of their system? Have you opened one of these ballasts to see who really manufacturs the guts?
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Old 08-07-2002, 02:56 PM
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Being a new moderator, and the only one here for now, :D , I hope I am writing this correct.

Stephane, I would say even though you mean well and your bulb and ballast sales are well recieved and needed, I would say your posts on this topic,{both posts} are bordering, {if not already], commercial posts.

When you were selling the bulbs in private on the for sale forum, that was fine, but in this post, and the other, you say your making a profit,{albeit very small}. I know this is just to cover your costs and appreciate it. We had the same situation on RC, with someone selling 250 watt Iwasaki,s of which I bought some. Neither him, nor you, are doing anything wrong, IMO.

But you own a lighting company and bring the bulbs in. If sold for any profit, I dont see how its not a commercial venture. Others such as Jayson, AJ, and JL Aquatics,{just to name a few}, cant advertise theirs products and your competing against them. I would say unfair. Plus Canreef is also a company that must compete against all the above and they do own the board.

The other posts regarding buying cheaper, was for sure heading that way. I left it there, because, first, I am unsure, and second the excellent points made by some of the aquarists about supporting their lfs.

I am questioning this not only as a moderator, but as an interested aquarist, who has bought many things private and will continue to. But fairness must be maintained on the boards.

Perhaps I am wrong on this, darn newbie moderators, ;) , and if so, I apologize, but after going over the rules and mulling over these posts since the start, I do see how.

Anyhow, lets just keep them non-commercial.
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Default 400W radiums. anyone here use em?

After browsing http://www.sunlightsupply.com/aquari...ballasts.shtml
I notice the Blue Wave ballasts contain one of three possible ballasts. The come with either an Advance, Magnatek or Venture.
I can't believe that any one of these three is the "correct" ballast. I don't see an option to choose the one you want.
So which one is the right one??
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Old 08-07-2002, 06:41 PM
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Thank-you Stephane.

Knowing you, I know it was not your intention and that you make hardly diddly-squat [img]smile.gif[/img] and that your selling of these bulbs & ballasts, is as a favour to other aquarists, {which we appreciate, believe me}. [img]smile.gif[/img] And as I mentioned before, IMO, its not really commercial, but perhaps getting into a grey area. :D
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Old 08-07-2002, 07:05 PM
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You always know what to said to get us on track :D that why you are the moderator ;)
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Sorry if you take this like that but it was not my intention of doing anyting comercial here or again's the rule
I could not even pay the butter on my toast whith the money i take on those ballast I do it at first to help people around if I dont I will stop
my buisnes is not a lightning compagny and selling bulb and ballast are not part of it but just give me access to buy them.

I have talk about the price of the ballast here only for one reason it is because Jayson have tell me 'you try to sale sale you agro ballast'
and I dont try to sell anyting to anyone I only try to help

As for the other post after reading it in all is content yes he was sound like someting commecial
but it was not my intention i was just trying to tell people who much profit LFS do on our head
and hate to see them get the price lower only when this happens but I delete all the post that should not be there

Anyway I will be more carful on my post to not talk about it anymore

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Old 08-10-2002, 08:39 PM
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Default 400W radiums. anyone here use em?

I got a few bulbs from stephane and my tank is lit with one now. All the hype about the Radium is true. Best lighting I have seen in person.
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