Steve Tyree's chat the other night - Page 6

stephane · #1 06-13-2002, 05:34 PM

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It is agreat looking tank and all. But you can't say that it is the bulbs and the bulbs alone that is getting the results that we are seeing in those pictures. I highly doubt it is the bulbs alone. Anyone who says coral growth and coloration is due to a bulb intensity and kelvin and nothing else is full of it IMO.

for the grow you are right here this not a miclacle bulb and there no receipe for miracle put those coral in
fresh water they will not trive even under that bulb I agree :D

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Having all these fancy high kelvin bulbs is for our eyes only IMO. EYe candy as it were. Most guys see eye candy as a great looking woman. We see it as corals.. There may be some benefit for having higer peaks at certain wavelengths but we don't know for sure

Yea but that exacly whatI want I have my reef for six years 10 years in salwater now and have grow and maintain a lot of coral now what I want after all those years is not a tank that only grow coral and look beautiful but a show tank that
will make you scream and there no way IMO and whit my experience I could achieve this whit
my saki and VHO.

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Digital Cameras are decieving when it comes to reef tanks. They enhance certain colors and distort what the colors actually are. This is after years of digital photography. With a camera I can make almost any tank look spectacular for color and you wouldn't even notice or know I had done it.

I agree here and at first I was septical for the radium but this bulb is there for a long time
and all I have heard is HO wow! from people who have reef for a long time so now I tink they could not be all rong or lies + I have hard time imagine someone buying a 150$ US bulb (couple of years ago) and clame that this bulb enhance color if not. Knowing people on those board they will all have cry that they have been rip off. IMO
the radium have made the proof that it give candy color to coral + now it seem that it grow them either maybe not as the saki but I dont care I want a show tank not a coral farm so Im in the bandwagon.

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For example. Water quality is something you have to have for a successful reef tank. Whether that is by mechanical means(good skimmer) or natural means(large enough refugium or ATS). Along with water quality is stability. Having your water stay at the levels the corals need to grow properly is essential

I agree... who could not? this is the basic but I tink I have all this

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What is right? who knows. Find what you like. But don't say that this bulb will make your tank look like some of the tanks we see online nowadays. Cause it is more than just one bulb that will make or break your tank.

I agree here to but as you say you need all the ingredian and one of the missing is the bulb I dont pretend to have a tank like him but I will never have one if I dont do what I need to acheive it ;)

Dont get me rong as far as grow and maintain the saki are perfect + they look great + sheap, most of the time accusing falsy to be yellow BUT It time for me to have more and grew up

I want a purple coral that is fluorecent puple and pink birdnest that are PINK not pale Yes they are beautiful pale but I want them to be pefecr pink blue and red like if I have painted them

[ 13 June 2002, 13:36: Message edited by: stephane ]

stephane · #2 06-13-2002, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by delphinus:
Personally I think the only way to really tell is to experiment on your own. We can read people's experiences but they're always anecdotal. We can read testing results such as Sanjay's but they're always theoretical. Now the theory behind the Radium sounds good. According to test they show a PPFD value almost comparable to Iwasaki. So growth should be OK. And they're blue, so colour for our esthetics should be OK. But really, the only way to tell for sure if you'll like 'em is to try 'em for yourself.

I was absolutely convinced that Iwasaki's were the way for me, based on what I've read over the years. Now that I finally have them ... I must say the one real disappointment I have is they really do not do reds any justice. I see fantastic reds under, say, 250W HQI 10000K and in my tank they're just a wee pink. So... once these Iwasakis are spent, in a year or whenever, I might give the radiums a very serious think. Since that will be an option somewhat affordable (comparatively speaking), because, while the HQI option sure looks nice, I definitely can't afford that unless I came into a lot of wealth (still waiting... :rolleyes: ). The radiums, at least they're mogul so more DIY options available and the bulbs seem only marginally more expensive than, say, Iwasaki. (Someone said $150? My Iwasaki's ran me about $100 each, well, hmm, maybe more like $90 each.)

100% agree that why I end whith the radium I want a good bulb but dont want to do it whit a 180$ bulb and a 500$ fixture that even need actinic I
dont choose that bulb for notting I do intense research