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TheReefGeek · #51 03-09-2006, 01:43 AM

Yes, of course put all your live rock back in at once, the live rock you already have that is. And you dont need to clean it, just swish it around as stated.

Nobody said the tank was going to re-cycle. Unless you add a whole bunch of new uncured live rock at once. THEN the die off from that might spike the tank. By the time "live" rock makes it to Edmonton, it aint to live. It smells horrible from everything rotting on it. So if you are adding uncured live rock, dont add to much, IMHO.

StirCrazy · #52 03-09-2006, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Reefer

Die off of what? The live rock? Why would this happen? Personally, I don't think it will, IMHO. I would put your Live Rock all back in the new tank at once. There is nothing better for cycling your tank than LR, IMHO. Heck, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that you won't even get a cycle that way. I would also add more than just a few lbs, but you could wait on that. Try to match pound/gallon what you have in the 20, eventually, IMHO.

I agree with this, if it is established rock from a running tank and it is going to be out of water for a very short time (less than say 3 hours) then thewre won't be any die off and even if there was a tiny bit there is more than enuf bacteria in the rock to handle it.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Reefer

Speaking of tankwater from the 20....try to save as much of this as possible for the new tank so you are not going with 100% new mixed SW.

this I disagree with, I have set up a new system (either from moving or what ever) about 5 times now and every time I use 100% new salt water. I have never lost anything and all I worry about is getting the PH, Alk and Temp the same in the two tanks.

changing tanks is a perfect time for that 100% clensing waterchange

Steve

TheReefGeek · #53 03-09-2006, 01:55 AM

Guys, I said ADD live rock to the tank, as in he is upgrading his tank and buying more. Of course he is not going to get any die off from his cured live rock already in the tank.

Johnny Reefer · #54 03-09-2006, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReefGeek

..... Unless you add a whole bunch of new uncured live rock at once. THEN the die off from that might spike the tank. ..... So if you are adding uncured live rock, dont add to much, IMHO. .....

I would never even consider putting uncured Live Rock into any system. Consequently, the thought did not enter my mind when I read your post and I thought you were talking about the cured established rock.

Do you mean to say that there are no LFS's in Edmonton that cure LR and sell it as such?

There's also the option of the aquarist curing it themselves.

Like I said...I would never put uncured LR in any system.

Glad we got that cleared up and cheers

,

OCDP · #55 03-09-2006, 02:48 AM

Yup, I will be adding all my Live Rock.. and the reason I said I was going to clean the hell out of it is because there's some algae (hair, weird macros [ugly] macros.. ) that I want off. I like to see purple on my rocks.. not algae. I will be adding a small amount of LR though.. and it's for the most part cured. I'm not worried really.. it wont be too much rock.. or if I do need lots, I'll be sure not to add lots at a time.

I will be using 100% newly mixed water in the new tank..

I got the OK to do the upgrade.. 24x24x18. Just need to build a stand. It won't be anything fancy.. just a basic look. The downside is I may not be able to start building until the beginning of April.. or shortly after. BUT in the meantime I may start buying all the equipment I'll need and getting some of that stuff out of the way.

I'm looking forward to this.. I'm really looking forward to starting out fresh and CLEAN... keeping on top of it 100% . I want the tank to look as new as possible at all times. I'll be able to design an aquascape I've always wanted to try, just not able to do so.

I may fill the tank with the water you can get at the grocery store, is it just RO water? Anyways, I am going to use that to fill the tank, then in a couple months I am going to look into an RO/DI unit.

Lighting is staying the same. I haven't had this fixture long, and to be honest.. I like it. I like the way it looks... and if all goes according to plan, it should do me well with the new tank. Only thing I'm changing in lighting is my bulb, the brand, and K rating

I also just added a 1 3/4W lunar light to the tank, and it suprisingly looks great. Perhaps because my fixture goes high up and I taped it on (yes taped.. it looks okay though) and it spreads very nicely throughout the tank.

TheReefGeek · #56 03-09-2006, 04:21 AM

Mark, the LFS here do have holding tanks for live rock. But they don't cure it before selling it per say.

You never know when the shipment came in, and the good stuff sells long before it is cured, because you get to pick out your pieces.

What is left over that IS eventually cured is dense crap with no life on it.

This is of course in general, and just my opinion.

SeaHorse_Fanatic · #57 03-09-2006, 04:48 AM

Scott,

If you're filling a 40g tank with store-bought water, at about $5/5 gallon, you're looking at $40 just for the water & it'll be a pain transporting that many jugs of water (8 jugs total). You're much better off adding $100 or so to that to get the RODI unit from Aquasafe, instead of upgrading later & wasting your $ now. It's really a worthwhile investment because you can use it for drinking & cooking as well.

Most of the local reefers have one & love it.

Anthony

OCDP · #58 03-09-2006, 01:55 PM

Perhaps I shall look into one right now then. I know it will definitely be worth the cash. Thanks for pointing that out to me Anthony, otherwise I would have went and spent all that cash at the grocery store.

Are these units just found on eBay? How hard are they to hook up? Mine would have to be portable (if that's possible) It would need to be hooked up to the sink. Then stored away after using it.

digital-audiophile · #59 03-09-2006, 01:59 PM

I bought mine off Ebay.. as for install, I revieved mine about a month and a half ago but since I am a procrastinator I have yet to hook it up...I keep having to go to zellers to get refills on my bottled RO/DI

go figure eh?

OCDP · #60 03-09-2006, 02:07 PM

Hahaha, and I thought I was lazy.. haha j/k.

Zellers eh, I am thinking just in case I can't afford to get an RO/DI unit right away, then I would at least like to fill the tank with RO/DI from a store.

How much do you pay at Zellers Greg? (PM me if need be)

Thanks.