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[daniella3d]

Interesting, then why my copperband don't want to eat the pacifica plankton? he just spit them out and does not touch it after that, but he does heat the PE mysis.

BTW, Acans and dendro will eat anything...so they are not really a reference here.

just curious to see where you got your info on the nutritional profile of them? Here is what I found:

PE Mysis
protein - 69.5%
fat 8.35%
Fiber 2.75%
EPA 15.09% total Fatty Acid
DHA 10.59% total Fatty Acid

Hikari Mysis
protein - 70%
fat 6.7%
fiber 13%

SFB Mysis
Protein 46%
Fat 5.5%
Fiber 3.7%

SFB Krill:
protein 75%
Fat 28%
Fiber 8%

Argent Labs Dried Krill
Protein 71 %
Fat 10.9%
Carbohydrates 8.7%
*This one includes HUFA analysis, its the percent of all fat, not all matter*
HUFA’s 40.8%
EPA 18.4%
DHA 11.1%

Hikari Plankton (I believe it Euphausia pacifica, a type of krill)
Protein: 57%
Fat: 7%
fiber 16%

Originally Posted by TimT

I have found that wild fish will immediately recognize this as a food source.

Corals also have the same reaction to Pacfica Plankton as wild fish do. Everything from Acans to Dendro's to Fungia to Trachyphyllia will immediately extend their polyps in a feeding response.

I feel that the nutritional profile of Pacifica Plankton is superior to mysis as it is a marine source. As well it does not expend it's energy reserves swimming 500 feet from the bottom of the lake to near the surface to feed and get caught.

Cheers,
Tim

[dsaundry]

Originally Posted by TimT
I have found that wild fish will immediately recognize this as a food source.

Corals also have the same reaction to Pacfica Plankton as wild fish do. Everything from Acans to Dendro's to Fungia to Trachyphyllia will immediately extend their polyps in a feeding response.

I feel that the nutritional profile of Pacifica Plankton is superior to mysis as it is a marine source. As well it does not expend it's energy reserves swimming 500 feet from the bottom of the lake to near the surface to feed and get caught.

Cheers,
Tim

I think Tim's answer was correct to this as well. If you are only going to highlight partial responses. His full quote stated the following.

I have used PE Mysis and Pacifica Plankton and they are both high quality feeds. Your fish will only do better by your feeding them these foods. I feel that the nutritional profile of Pacifica Plankton is superior to mysis as it is a marine source. As well it does not expend it's energy reserves swimming 500 feet from the bottom of the lake to near the surface to feed and get caught.

So I will restate that this is strictly an opinion forum from fellow members. So whether you use Hikari, or PE Mysis or Pacifica Plankton or pellets or Hot Dogs....whatever you find works best...use them! My Copperband will hardly touch plankton but gobbles down bloodworms{doesn't matter what brand} I am always open to try new types of food and watch how my fish react to them, if I find something they like I will reuse it, if they don't like it it's kept as a memory and I won't use it again. Am I a die hard ingredient reader??? Most of the time-yes, however without beating a dead horse here, I think that most of the higher end food you can get from your lfs or supplier is usually fairly decent. How your fish take to it is another story. I have had fish that won't touch certain foods and later had the same type of fish gobble them up. So nobody can tell me that for the most part a certain type of marine fish will only eat one type of food as there always seems to be an exception to the rule. Just look at some of the carnivorous fish that go at Nori. Again this is a forum where it is each members opinion of what they think is the best fish food. If you have a loyalty to what works best for you then great, but what works best for one doesn't always work for another, so whether one foods ingredients seem higher and better in writing, if your fish doesn't like it....it's a waste of money. As with human beings, while some might like the Keg for steak others are happy with a sirloin burger from A+W, fish have their favorite foods as well, so Vive la Difference.

[Parker]

As to not mislead people, I don't actually feed hotdogs

[chef]

Really, no hot dogs. uh oh!!! Again utilizing misleading info. What am I gonna do with the dozen smokies I just ultra-finely chopped? lmao

[TimT]

Hi,

Originally Posted by daniella3d

Interesting, then why my copperband don't want to eat the pacifica plankton? he just spit them out and does not touch it after that, but he does heat the PE mysis.

First; Copperband Butterflyfish are sometimes difficult to get started on Plankton or Mysis as they normally eat worms etc.
Second; Since you have had it a while it has been trained to eat PE mysis.

By wild fish I meant fishes that have recently been imported. ie less than 3 weeks from time of capture on the reef.

Originally Posted by daniella3d

BTW, Acans and dendro will eat anything...so they are not really a reference here.

Ok, I have pictures of Acanthopyllia, Caulastrea, Cynarina, Favites, Lobophyllia, Moseleya, Symphyllia all eating it. Most LPS will readily eat it.

Originally Posted by daniella3d

just curious to see where you got your info on the nutritional profile of them?

The information was provided by the supplier of the plankton. I mention that on the product page on the website, just after the lab analysis.

Cheers,
Tim

[naesco]

Tim what country does the product come from and where is it packaged?

I note that many Hikari products (used to be a quality name in the fish food industry) now come from China which makes all of the ingredients suspect.

[Myka]

Originally Posted by naesco

I note that many Hikari products (used to be a quality name in the fish food industry) now come from China which makes all of the ingredients suspect.

Ya, I noticed that too, and recently quit buying Hikari.

[TimT]

The plankton is captured in BC ocean waters near Northern Vancouver Island. I process it myself locally. Thus the product is a 100% Local product from start to finish.

[Reef Pilot]

Originally Posted by TimT

Hi,



First; Copperband Butterflyfish are sometimes difficult to get started on Plankton or Mysis as they normally eat worms etc.

I have a Copperband, and he loves all forms of Mysis and Plankton. I mostly feed him freeze dried. He also likes chopped up fresh clams.

But have not been able to get him to eat any type of worms. Have tried to get him on frozen (and freeze dried) bloodworms. However, he just spits them out after sampling them.

[TimT]

Since your Copperband is already eating Mysis, Plankton and the fresh clam you are giving it a good source of nutrition. I would not be overly concerned that it is not eating bloodworms. I could be that the fresh clams and Mysis and Plankton taste better to the fish than the bloodworms.

The main concern is for newly arrived fish that are not eating at all. Then I would offer them frozen bloodworms or live if available. Once the fish starts to eat in captivity it can be eventually trained to accept other foods.