corals calgary (shops)

[The Grizz]

Originally Posted by Polscot

once again.......it isnt brought over the boarder its shipped......

Once again..... SHIPPING SOME CORALS OVER THE BORDER REQUIRE CITIES.

Dude don't take this the wrong way but I have read through this tread and I have noticed that you are quick to snap at someone if you don't like there comment's. This is a public forum and peeps will post comment's any where whether you like it or not.

I live in Red Deer area but I some times wish I was closer to Calgary because I think that the price's of livestock / coral are priced just fine because the care and quality is good.

[Chaloupa]

Originally Posted by Polscot

once again.......it isnt brought over the boarder its shipped......

Does it just "bypass" the border then? It still crosses the border. Be it shipped which they WILL open or if it's traveling in a car..either way it still crosses the border meaning it must have a CITIES permit.

You are lucky to be where you are, there are a TON of nice LFS, and a ton of excellent reefers. I think why you may find people are a little sensitive when you throw out the US pricing is that we've all made contacts with some very good LFS's and understand the way that they have to do business. A lot of us have become friendly or friends with them...they don't just jack up prices to gauge every reefer, they sell for a decent price to try to cover the overhead costs so when you need someone they are still there to help you or provide you with something you may need. Sorry, gonna happen. Not all LFS are jerks. Just go by what other people tell you and go in and see for yourself. Then when you have an issue or question......try to contact the person you bought stuff from in the US....or hey, go to your LFS that may have even 1 person that knows his or her stuff and get their advice...and weird, you don't even have to pay for the advice, but the store owner still has to pay the employee to give that advice. It's all relative.

[Polscot]

sigh.....they all have cities i tell the stores down there that there going to be comming to canada, have them ship to oregon and then to here the nessisary paper work is all there, everyone is just focusing on the negative, yes i think alot of the shops in calgary are over prices hence wanting to get into the reefers community and deal with private sellers, and yes, i realise calgary has alot of good stores unlike other places, but at the end of the day...no offence i dont care about other places if u dont like where u are move, stop bringing negativity on me for simply wanting to turn to private sellers over go to a store.

[Chaloupa]

Originally Posted by Polscot

sigh.....they all have cities i tell the stores down there that there going to be comming to canada, have them ship to oregon and then to here the nessisary paper work is all there, everyone is just focusing on the negative, yes i think alot of the shops in calgary are over prices hence wanting to get into the reefers community and deal with private sellers, and yes, i realise calgary has alot of good stores unlike other places, but at the end of the day...no offence i dont care about other places if u dont like where u are move, stop bringing negativity on me for simply wanting to turn to private sellers over go to a store.

Wow, sounds like you have it all figured out and we just don't have a clue...good luck to you.

[kien]

Forget my gsp and birdsnest, I want YOU to ship me in some corals! If you can get CITIES for everything you bring in you should seriously consider openning up a small biz and selling locally. I would love to see some Sweet US livestock brought in!

[xtreme]

I'm in for some American stuff as well. May as well get a group order going.

[The Grizz]

Originally Posted by Polscot

stop bringing negativity on me for simply wanting to turn to private sellers over go to a store.

Dude no one is bashing you for what you are wanting to do because most of us do it our self but we also support the good LFS because without them we would not be able to get the things we want or need without them. There are some great people here but when they feel they have been rubbed the wrong way something is going to be said.

[The Grizz]

Originally Posted by kien

Forget my gsp and birdsnest, I want YOU to ship me in some corals! If you can get CITIES for everything you bring in you should seriously consider openning up a small biz and selling locally. I would love to see some Sweet US livestock brought in!

Originally Posted by xtreme

I'm in for some American stuff as well. May as well get a group order going.

+1 on both of these remarks

[Gaffer]

Originally Posted by Polscot

sigh.....they all have cities i tell the stores down there that there going to be comming to canada, have them ship to oregon and then to here the nessisary paper work is all there, everyone is just focusing on the negative, yes i think alot of the shops in calgary are over prices hence wanting to get into the reefers community and deal with private sellers, and yes, i realise calgary has alot of good stores unlike other places, but at the end of the day...no offence i dont care about other places if u dont like where u are move, stop bringing negativity on me for simply wanting to turn to private sellers over go to a store.

I was not going to weigh in here as not to clutter up your thread, but you seem to be doing a good enough job yourself.

I have dealt with shipping/mailing/bringing across items controlled by CITES.

Firstly, I would be willing to bet that if you said you needed CITES documents for some corals you are shipping to Canada 1/2 the stores in the US would have no clue how/where to get these and the other 1/2 would tell you to move along as CITES documentation is a pain in the butt, and unless you are spending a considerable amount of money they will not bother. You mention that you are stocking a 6.6 gal, Fluval Edge IIRC, so you are likely not looking for a large shipment.

With that said, not all corals, rics, zoas are not on the CITES list, so you may not need documents for some more run of the mill stuff. If you have the shipper put "Non CITES Specimens" on the package they are less likey to be siezed or held up. Still there is a chance they will spot check the package, and may hold it up long enough to kill the shipment, and if there is something in there that is CITES and is not documented, you can get nailed. Luckily most customs agents are not trained to identify things to a fine level of detail, but that too can bugger things up if you get the over zelous rookie who refers it to Fish & Wildlife. How do I know? I have had it happen.

If moving corals across the border was easy & cheap then we would all be doing it. There are so many variables that can end up with a dead specimen and being out of pocket for shipping and the livestock. Things that can go wrong include a mistakenly seized shipment, storage in too hot or too cold warehouse, lost in transit, etc. etc. etc.

When you factor that into buying locally it becomes a more attractive option.

You do seem to have it all figured out though, so I wish you all the best.

IB4TL.

Andrew

[Coleus]

:-) Comparing US vs Canada price is wrong and then bashing LFS in your first thread instead introducing yourself or ask which store is best to shop is also does not go well here.

We do this as a hobby while LFS need to make money to operate a business. In the end, i think demand/supply rule applies, the LFS has to price it right to survive, price it wrong and they won't last. (Except for some expensive store that must has a super customer service )

WE NEED LFS and Calgarians are lucky to have some great LFS with fair price.

Btw, if we are doing group order from US that work out very cheaper, I AM IN.